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  1. Nemesai is offline

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    I know "Bruce Lee" is like a bad word here, but he had a good idea about this. You should strive to be your perfect self. Not big because you think it looks good, or for intimidation or whatever. You should be at the weight you can move the best. The most efficient body you can create. Highest possible strength to weight ratio. (functional strength, ability to move yourself)

    What's the point of having huge muscles if you can't climb a fence, or do 10-20 pullups, or run with any grace.


    At 5'9" I don't think you should weigh more than 170, but I'd recommend you weigh at 150, carved out of wood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesai
    (functional strength, ability to move yourself)

    What's the point of having huge muscles if you can't climb a fence, or do 10-20 pullups.

    I don't quite see how climbing a fence or doing 10-20 pull-ups is really all that functional. I can count the number of times I've had to do both ever in my life on 0 fingers.

    I'm all in favor at keeping an optimal strength/weight ratio, and of maximizing CNS efficiency before attempting to promote an absurd degree of sacroplasmic hypertrophy (at least for a fighter), but "functional strength" is used by snakeoil salesmen. There is strength, and there is not strength, but all strength has a function. There is no "functionless" strength, or "unfunctional" strength, or "dysfunctional" strength, but moreso unproprtional strength. Really, the idea of "functional strength" is really the notion of "functional mass", wherein one builds hypertrophy in the pursuit of greater CNS efficiency/maximal strength or power output, rather than hypertrophy for the sake of hypertrophy.

    First and foremost, function must be defined. From there, we get into SPP or GPP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marrt
    Really? looking at you in your vids I always assumed you were kinda tall - 6'1, maybe 6'2... go figure.
    I think my camera elongates me for some reason. Might not be adjusted right. I do have kinda lanky limbs for my height, and my calves are skinny, but my camera makes me look like I'm walking around on pool cues, haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesai
    At 5'9" I don't think you should weigh more than 170, but I'd recommend you weigh at 150, carved out of wood.
    So which of my arms should I cut off?
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    150 it is.

    That shouldn't be much of a prob.


    Thanks guys, But I'd like to hear more from the rest of you.

    Keep posting away.
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    Tuvshinbayar Naidan is a Mongolian judoka who stands 5'9" 231lbs, and he just won a gold medal.

    So you should probably shoot for 231 lbs.

    You should also change your first name to Tuvshinbayar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hex
    Tuvshinbayar Naidan is a Mongolian judoka who stands 5'9" 231lbs, and he just won a gold medal.

    So you should probably shoot for 231 lbs.

    You should also change your first name to Tuvshinbayar.
    This is by far the best advice I have ever heard on Bullshido.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tubemode12
    150 it is.

    That shouldn't be much of a prob.


    Thanks guys, But I'd like to hear more from the rest of you.

    Keep posting away.
    Why?
    IT's all going to be the same answer.
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    tube i think that at 5'9 considering you are probably small framed since you are 140 lbs. i would say 160-165 would be a good weight for you. I am 5'10 and im not bulked at all actually pretty skinny and i weigh 166 lbs. But that is just my imo
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    tubemode12's, read the sticky thread. This has been discussed before, with a freaking bloody chart showing the ideal weight by gender and height.
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