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    Originally posted by The Wastrel
    Nobody's a puppet. States have needs. If they want something from one...quid pro quo. The only reason the NKs are nobody's puppet is because nobody cares.
    I'm not saying that they are puppets - but NK has been saying that for years. I'm just pointing out the fact that the ROK jumped when the US asked them to. It kinda leaves them open to criticism, wouldn't you agree?

    Did you notice that other countries did not do the same thing?
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    I'm not saying that they are puppets
    Okay then.
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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    Originally posted by Rising Phoenix
    It certainly gives merit to what the North Koreans were saying all along - that the ROK is just a puppet state for the US.
    That's what I posted before. I didn't say they were puppets, nor do I agree with it.
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    Just checking.
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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    It's all good.
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    Kan-Ch'eob.
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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    Ch'oesong hamnida. Hangook ch'on ch'al motaeyo.
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    Not that I give a f*** about Korea

    Originally posted by Rising Phoenix
    Iraq......it's getting to be as bad as Vietnam.
    Does this seem like a reasonable comparison?

    1) Vietnam had two large patrons--the USSR and China.
    2) Vietnam had the inviolable North as an operating base.
    3) Vietnam had relatively sh*tty terrain.
    4) Vietnam had the North Vietnamese Army

    Iraq has?
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    Iraq has alot of US soldiers dying senslessly...as did Vietnam.

    Does that sound like a reasonable comparison to you?
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    When I was at Fort Sill

    Originally posted by Rising Phoenix
    Iraq has alot of US soldiers dying senslessly...as did Vietnam.

    Does that sound like a reasonable comparison to you?
    We had around 25 soldiers die in a chow line when an errant 105mm shell shot out of safe. Yep, I never realized Lawton was like Vietnam.

    Put another way, if you see Iraq as another Vietnam, it's because it suits you to do so. While there might be other valid comparisons out there (Beirut comes to mind), Vietnam is a poor match.
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