Posted On:12/09/2003 1:19pm
yeah, i agree fernando. most people never expect something so simple.
Posted On:12/09/2003 1:34pm
Style: Chinese Boxing
Yes, an osoto gari is not a trip.
Throws and takedowns that I've used:
ultra reaping hip throw
lateral throw/floating throw
punch face really hard and watch them fall down
Modified circle throw "gutwrench"
Posted On:12/09/2003 1:38pm
Style: stand up,clinch,ground
Posted On:12/09/2003 2:18pm
Yeah SAMBO suplex. You start off like a regular suplex but the angle is slightly different. You turn the body in mid air, partially letting go of the body, then you basically clothesline slam the person into the ground.
Posted On:12/09/2003 2:28pm
omega, by ultra reaping hip throw do you mean uchi-mata or harai-goshi
Posted On:12/09/2003 2:31pm
I have been doing a lot of bodylock takedowns lately, and headlock sumi-gaeshi
Posted On:12/09/2003 6:16pm
Everyone should do suplexes.
How do you do a headlock sumi gaeshi? Do you mean like from a guillotine, but not necessarily with the choke?
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Posted On:12/09/2003 6:24pm
As far as the more rare judo takedowns I've seen in MMA:
Uchimata (Sak does it to Newton as a counter to the outside leg trip/ko ouchi gake)
harai goshi (oyama does it to dan henderson, and that guy kimura does it in the choke video when it shows him competing in shoot fighting)
sasae tsuri komi ashi (oyama does it twice to renzo)
sumi gaeshi (sak and karo parisyan)
ippon seionage (karo, and newton, though newton doesn't pull it off perfectly)
o soto makikomi (karo)
te garuma (rampage does it all the time... isn't it called a duckunder in wrestling?)
koshi garuma (Yoshida, and also the guy from russian top team who fought alistair overeem)
Tomoenage (Leneinger does it to Guy Metzger, and then proceeds to get beat on)
and that's it I think. I'd imagine that harai goshi, uchi mata, and koshi garuma, and sasae tsurikomi ashi would be the most high percentage. Maybe sumi gaeshi at times, too, but I'd imagine you'd get more chances from your own guard and you could use it as a guard sweep into mount.
Last edited by mikus; 12/09/2003 6:43pm at .
Posted On:12/09/2003 6:25pm
Style: japanese jujutsu
Originally posted by mikus
Hey man osoto gari ain't no school yard trip. ko soto gari maybe. Actually **** it, I hate osoto gari. It's one of my least favorite throws. I hate it I hate it I hate it. Fucking schoolyard trip.
I think of osoto gari as something I figured out in second grade.
OTOH, ko soto gari is not something I'd imagine people doing instinctively.
Being fair, I've had more luck with ko soto gari in randori. Especially against overly aggressive people.
Posted On:12/09/2003 6:37pm
Last edited by mikus; 12/09/2003 6:41pm at .
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