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    Placing bets in the first UFCs was awesome, you had no clue.
    Fighters (most) - clueless
    Fans- clueless,
    Refs- clueless,
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    We totally expected people to die in the ring! It was a Martial Artists Dream come true.

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    I just wish MMA had more styles. Like if the guys that train in kenpo also train a bit in bjj or judo so they would be ready for ground fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KO'd N DOA
    Placing bets in the first UFCs was awesome, you had no clue.
    Fighters (most) - clueless
    Fans- clueless,
    Refs- clueless,
    Commintators, clueless.
    We totally expected people to die in the ring! It was a Martial Artists Dream come true.
    Seriously, my friend and I watched UFC 1-4 on ppv back in the day and let me tell you it was just like that. We were doing our TKD/Karate stuff after school and when that first UFC came on, well, you know how over active a young guys imagination can be. We thought this was really bloodsport come to life; style vs style, David & Goliath-type stuff. If was fun to see guys come in there with wrestling boots, spandex or gi's. You just didn't know what to expect with no weight class and no time limit.

    Now I don't even need to see a fight to guess the probable outcome or to guess what style each guy does. Sure, it's the natural evolution and pruning of the sport, but I don't think the 'wildcard' factor is there anymore; it's just too refined. At least we have options now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulci
    I just wish MMA had more styles. Like if the guys that train in kenpo also train a bit in bjj or judo so they would be ready for ground fighting.
    Mma has plenty of styles

    G&P
    S&B
    C&P
    L&P
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    Your average Kenpo doesn't see much effective application in the sport because it tends to prefer to fixate on hypothetical scenarios with "deadly strikes" that are illegal in MMA comp. This saps the liveness from the training. Now your above average Kempo on the other hand...

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    I really enjoyed the laxer rules and "what the hell are we about to see now?" atmosphere of the early UFC's. It was exciting to me because it was a lot closer to a street fight than the current product is. I understand why it's evolved as it has, but I do miss the less refined feel of the old UFC.

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    Very good point BSdaemon. Do you think that if it truley was a bloodsport would Such styles as kenpo, wing chun, bagua etc be effective?

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    From what Ive seen, If the style does not train in all ranges with resisting opponents because of the supposed "deadlyness" of their technique, then it will almost certainly fail when it goes up against a style that doesn't hide behind theoretical techniques with unproven effectiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fulci
    I just wish MMA had more styles. Like if the guys that train in kenpo also train a bit in bjj or judo so they would be ready for ground fighting.
    Styles available in MMA today (off the top of my head):

    Striking:

    Muay Thai - Several
    Shotokan Karate - Lyoto Machida
    Kyokushin Karate - George St. Pierre
    Kempo - Chuck Lidell
    Boxing - Several (though many have also trained a kicking art as well)
    Kung Fu (Sanshou) - Cung Le

    Grappling:

    Judo - Karo Parysian
    BJJ - SEVERAL
    Wrestling - Several
    Catch Wrestling - Josh Barnett
    Sambo - Fedor

    The one thing you'll not is that all of these "styles" have similar training styles and goals. They also have similar moves, because what works, works.

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    I'm constantly amazed how Fedor (who is #1 in the world) does Sambo, a MA taht just about no one in the States has heard of or practices.

    Yes I know there is Sambo in the States, but in terms of popularity it's all BJJ. I wonder why Sambo isn't that big in the States... maybe because Fedor isn't that big with the UFC crowd?

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