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  1. PHILBERT is offline

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    Effects on the back from weighted vests

    If someone has a back disability such as Scheuermann's Kyphosis, would it/could it cause any damages to the back that are long lasting if you wore a weighted vest?
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    I don't see how...

    Back curvature eh? (**** I didn't need to see that first picture!! MY EYES!!!!)
    Hmm, cancel that. The added stress on the shoulders maaaaaayyyy affect further the back.
    Ask your doctor about this.


    And consider waist weights as an alternative.
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    We need an M.D. for the site, I'm going to be the wrong kind of doctor... :(
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    A weighted vest for what purpose?
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    I'd like to minor in sport physiology and nutrition as kinda a minor.
    (Don't think disabilities like that fall under sports physiology.)


    keinhaar - There are several things a weighted vest would do.

    1. Burn more calories, as more energy is needed to transition from one location to another.
    (Hardly the main point IMO.)
    2. Increase in body speed. This is a form of conditioning that forces the body to adapt under pressure to this new load. (LOL!)

    The weight makes the body move slower, and it is forced to adapt to move at "normal" speed.
    Therefore, when the weight is taken off, the actual "normal" speed is increased, increasing speed overall in the worked areas.
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    Since there is no physical "speed" property of muscle, we must be talking about nervous system adaptation. Unfortuneatly, undertaking skills with added resistance would **** everything all up since it no longer IS that skill.

    There are much more productive ways to get your body to adapt to a load too. Weight training comes to mind. Of course, the adaptation comes after the fact.

    I realize the romance of the human body is taken down a notch, but there's only so much you can do with it. There aren't different kinds of speed, different kinds of strength, or different kinds of endurance...only different ways in which it's developed, measured, and displayed. Some ways are better than others.
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    Oh yeah, forgot the neural pathway growth.
    That's part of it.




    "Since there is no physical "speed" property of muscle,"
    Not sure what you mean....

    Ever heard of fast twitch muscles?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbo...h/soleus.shtml
    http://ca.search.yahoo.com/search/ca...fl=0&x=wrt&vc=




    Oh yeah, also helps with balance.


    "There aren't different kinds of speed, different kinds of strength, or different kinds of endurance"
    Did.....you want to start another thread to debate this one?
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    Well, I want to jog with it on, do stance work and other training, and push/chin/pull ups. I can't do the bench because I dislocated my left shoulder years ago, and after I had to put back in place, every time I benched after that, it caused a popping in the shoulder and I could barely bench 135, but I can do push ups like there is no tomorrow, and chin/pull ups.

    I wanted the vest as extra weight for when I do some physical activity that is not related to weight training.
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    *slaps the noobie*

    Silly noobie. Go ask a doctor or a sports physician.
    There is no one here qualified to answer that, and if there were, they'd likely tell you they'd need to see the person before making that decision.
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    In fact, the more qualified, the more likely they are to tell you to consult a physician.
    Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
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