7/30/2008 6:29am, #11Originally Posted by Eddie Hardon
7/30/2008 6:35am, #12
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He was coming off of foot surgery. That would be my guess.
7/30/2008 6:39am, #13Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn
7/30/2008 8:19am, #14Originally Posted by kiltboy
7/30/2008 10:21am, #15
7/30/2008 2:20pm, #16
Originally Posted by AnnaTrocity
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Either way, not much of a party drug. He was seriously fucked up in one way or another if he was on it.Undisputed KING OF ASSHOLES.
7/30/2008 2:31pm, #17
Methadone is way worse for you than heroin in what it does to your body though. I remember when studying in Amsterdam we had someone from their drug policy come and talk to a class about Dutch Drug laws, treatment, etc...
Someone asked, "if they use methadone to get people off of heroin, what do they do to get people off of methadone"
Drug lady: "Nothing. It is alot worse for you but at least you are not as much a danger to the comminuty."
that's rough.There is no cheating, there is only jiu-jitsu.
7/30/2008 3:49pm, #18
I'm guessing I am the only person on the board who has had any real experience with methadone so I will chime in. Cyril the **** your "drug lady" was spouting out is ridiculous. Opiates don't really do any damage to your body. The lifestyle of a junky is what does the damage. Dirty needles, poor diet, shitty living conditions ect. Heroin is way worse for you then methadone. Heroin is produced illegally, so there is no governing body like the FDA to monitor its production. You have any idea what kind of **** herion is cut with? As for the euphoria factor of opiates/opioids that generally is decided by 2 factors. 1) the half life of the opiate/opioid and 2) which of the 3 receptor sites they stimulate. Methadone has the longest half life of any opiate/opioid. This means it takes much longer for your body to metabolise it, thus making it last allot longer then most others. It won't really get you super buzzed unless you have no tollerance to opioids. It will most likelly make you sick. On the opposite side of the coin you have say fentanyl. Now this **** is strong, so strong it is dispensed in micrograms. It packs a real wallop, I have never been higher in my life. My experiance with this drug has been absolutely beautiful. Never experianced anything like it. Fentanyl has a extremely short half life, because of this it is generaly used in a transdermal patch.
Having been on methadone for a period of 2 and a half years I know its absolute hell coming off of it. Sad truth is most people do not. I spent 8 months detoxing off of it. The first 3 months were full of me vomiting, almost shitting my pants on multiple occasions. Hallucinations, sever muscle spasms, no appitite, ice cold appendages and endlessly sweating. It was hell on earth and the most difficult obsticle I have faced in my life. In cyrils post the question comes up, "if they use methadone to get people off of heroin, what do they do to get people off of methadone." The real answer to this question is the drug be buphrenorphine. It is an amazing drug. It has proven far more effective in treating opiate addiction then any other. Sadly it is not readily perscribed in North America due to many reasons. I will only mention one. Methadone clinics make a ton of money and their patrons rarely come off of it.(I have atleast 2 dozen funny/strange stories I could tell about the type of people you run into at a methadone clinic.) Buphrenorphine is commonly used in many western European countries, and is almost exclusively used in the Scandinavian countries for opiate addiction. With very high success rates I must add.
I am going to 2nd the thought that Irvin was using methadone to ween off of the oxymorphone.
Lastly, I was never a herion addict, that is not the reason I was on methadone. I have had 3 shoulder surgeries. The second one was botched and in the process of needing a 3rd surgery I ran into some difficulties and lost my health insurance. My pain doctor recommended me to go to a methadone clinnic because it was the only option for me financially. When I finally had my 3rd surgery, I finally got to the point were I was not in need of pain medication and went though the hellatios task of withdrawaling from the pain meds. My advice to any and everybody is research every perscribed or over the counter medicine you take. That and remember, if you take opiates/opioids for longer then 2 weeks your body has already built a tolerance and a level of physical dependence.
7/31/2008 3:52am, #19
Originally Posted by SoulMechanicOriginally Posted by SoulMechanic
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7/31/2008 10:20am, #20
Originally Posted by cyrijl
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