The Last Samurai (discussion, spoilers)

**albert** · Posted On: 12/07/2003 1:59am

Thanks for the book recommendations, i'll check em' out sometime

**CrimsonTiger** · Posted On: 12/07/2003 2:13am

Albert,

Wow. Brilliant. Truly brilliant. 10 whole posts (11 now)...your criticism and commentary have been truly inspirational and awe-inspiring.

Why was it good? Because it was entertaining. Because I walked out of there having spent almost 14 bucks (Canadian) and didn't think to myself "**** I want my money back!". Because even if every scene dissected in your little whiney thread sucked, as a coherent whole, they were quite entertaining.

Perhaps you believe your endless prattle passes for analytical intelligence. Perhaps you think rambling on endlessly means you have something of value to say. Perhaps you simply like to see yourself type long messages.

So please, continue to rage against the establishment and big budget films. And please throw out the names of movies that most people couldn't care less about. Like so many people before you, rebel against the norm and dissect and analyse a movie to death. PLEASE?

Because for most of us, it's a simple dichotomy: Did you like it, or not? We don't need to explain to ourselves why.

**Stick** · Posted On: 12/07/2003 4:49am

Wow, someone's cranky.

Yeah, I liked the movie, most of the bad reviews out there annoy me. I was just "fanwanking" with him (bullshitting explainations for plotholes and inconsisstancies).

**albert** · Posted On: 12/07/2003 11:30am

So..it was good because it was entertaining; it forms a coherent whole that's entertaining. Well, I would argue that a movie being a coherent whole is a requirement and doesn't necessarily make it entertaining, but I don't think you have the attention span to read that much. There's a lot of movies that form a coherent whole better than the sum of their parts..and I still think they're sort of lame. Like Master and Commander. I'm a tough critic. Boo hoo.

Because for most of us, it's a simple dichotomy: Did you like it, or not? We don't need to explain to ourselves why.

Aren't forums for debate, i.e. explaining yourself and giving arguments? If you don't care about this, then don't participate. I started this thread to discuss the movie. If you think your reasoning is above explanation then I don't get why you're posting besides to flame me. That's an honorable goal, but I hope it's not because you're taking anything I say personally. Besides me inferring you have ADD. Which is not inconcievable. Goddamn Crimson Kitten.

**Southpaw** · Posted On: 12/07/2003 11:46am

I agree with CT...

I don't really enjoy many movies...but I really liked TLS. It was entertaining...and that's what we go to the movies to do...be entertained.

If I wanted an accurate historical dipiction of Samurai life, I'd read a book.

**The Wastrel** · Posted On: 12/07/2003 11:55am

Isn't "it's good because it's entertaining" kid of stupid?

Like, the point is that the person criticizing the film WAS NOT ENTERTAINED.

It's not as if he was entertained, but then went out of his way to explain how bad the film was.

If you don't like talking about film, then DON'T TALK ABOUT FILM.

**Southpaw** · Posted On: 12/07/2003 1:07pm

Originally posted by The Wastrel
[B]Isn't "it's good because it's entertaining" kid of stupid?

I don't think so. That's how I decide if I really like a movie or not.

If I think a movie sucks, I wasn't really entertained by it...i.e., it bored the **** out of me...(Matrix 3).