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  1. socalpankration is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/23/2008 10:19pm


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    My second letter to ESPN

    This show was edited to reflect what ESPN wanted it to be. The producer went through 50 plus videos and chose 30 seconds of the ugliest moments. I would offer ESPN a chance to prove they are fair source of media. Come to a Pankration tournament and film a random block of matches and display them as you see them. No editing a hundred matches down to 30 seconds of illegal moves, fouls and injuries.


    I also offer a challenge to any of these so called “Child Experts” who believe this is harmful to kids.
    Since 2002 we have a record of all kids as well as adults who have placed in our tournaments.
    http://www.fightleague.org/Results.html I can also list most of the kids who pioneered this sport in 2001/2002.


    My Challenge: Go through the results and randomly pick 10 kids who have participated in these events on multiple occasions. Pick as far back as possible, many are now young adults and older Teens. Have an "Expert" interview them and compare them socially and physically to those of their peer group in their perspective communities. This is the only control group that exists and it is yours to use.


    I guarantee that these kids are head and shoulders above the general population. WHY? I don't know why. I'm not a so called "expert" . I just know from 6 years of experience watching these kids grow into good young adults.

    I still know many of these kids and they are either still involved with sports, in college or the Military. I can't think of any that are nothing but good citizens, I know of none that are in gangs or prison. This sport is not for everyone but the ones who are able to participate gain a great deal of Self Esteem along with respect for their Training Partners and fellow competitors. They also learn that with hard work you get results.


    If you want to keep within the context of the show. Lets compare reports cards of students from Mr. Millis school to that of Mr. Guieterez school. I bet they are consistent with each other.
    Last edited by socalpankration; 7/24/2008 2:07am at .
  2. elipson is offline
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    Posted On:
    7/23/2008 11:50pm

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    Fucken eh man!

    What is this in response to though? Sounds like there is an interesting backstory.
  3. HappyOldGuy is offline
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    Posted On:
    7/24/2008 12:02am


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    You're making valid points but it needs an edit. For grammar, and also the "liberal media" comment is gonna get your letter dropped in the nut bin.
  4. cuatro76 is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/24/2008 12:08am


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    The media isn't always liberal, either. Look at Fox News.
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    Posted On:
    7/24/2008 1:12am


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    If you think the media is liberal, you are a nut case.

    EDIT: Don't turn valid argument into **** by needing to include your personal politics in it.
  6. socalpankration is offline

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    7/24/2008 1:37am


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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Off
    If you think the media is liberal, you are a nut case.

    EDIT: Don't turn valid argument into **** by needing to include your personal politics in it.
    Point taken, it will be taken out of my hard copy. But aside from CNN and Fox they are.
  7. Domite is offline
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    Posted On:
    7/24/2008 2:01pm


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    No, they aren't.
  8. HappyOldGuy is offline
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    7/24/2008 2:08pm


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    Let's take that to sociocide :new_vampv

    It looks good. Is this to the same person who got the first one, because if not, you might want to repeat that you are no headstrikes etc. Seems to me like your strongest case is that they were attacking kids full contact MMA and using you guys as examples without clarifying the differences.
  9. G-Off is offline
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    Posted On:
    7/24/2008 2:56pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by socalpankration
    Point taken, it will be taken out of my hard copy. But aside from CNN and Fox they are.
    Agree to disagree. Thanks for removing it from your article.
  10. Hesperus is offline
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    *a-HEM*

    CBS, anyone?
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