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  1. budokake is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/21/2008 1:35pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    Use of steroids

    Dr. Walter Van Helder of Phoenix Grappling Center, Phoenix Arizona should be banned from judo and not allowed to run a dojo or teach judo to anyone of any age. His testimony in the USADA (United States Anti-Doping Agency) hearing was discredited and the expert witness stated, "I believe he gave steroids to a perfectly healthy human being." They also stated, "His behavior cannot be tolerated.
    Someone who has been proven to help an athlete cheat, even if he is a doctor, should suffer the negative consequences of his personal actions. I am tired of watching Dr. Van Helder trying to determine the outcome of local tournaments from either the referee's position or the judge's chair. He is even try to become an international level referee. He is a disgrace to the judo community.

    400B.C. Greek tragedy writer Sophocles, "I would rather lose with honor than to win by cheating."

    Andrew Carnegie, "No amount of ability is to any avail without honor."



    copy and paste this into your web browser window and read the ruling yourself.
    http://www.usantidoping.org/files/ac...une%202006.pdf
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    Posted On:
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    Wrong forum unless you're intending an investigation of this person yourself.
    "To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men".

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    Posted On:
    8/20/2008 10:08pm


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    who died and left you in charge?
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    Posted On:
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     Style: This and that

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    You have four posts, and you're bitching at someone with over 6,000 for explaining rules?

    You had best be trolling, my friend.
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    Posted On:
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    I've been prescribed steroids before. My doctor though i had a immune system issue because of a rash on my arm. I never filled the scrip, left it for two weeks and the rash was gone.

    Though, i'm all good now if i want to take them i guess.

    Score!!


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  6. HigherLearning is offline

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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by syberia
    I've been prescribed steroids before. My doctor though i had a immune system issue because of a rash on my arm. I never filled the scrip, left it for two weeks and the rash was gone.

    Though, i'm all good now if i want to take them i guess.

    Score!!
    there is a pretty big difference between the steroids you're talking about and the ones used by athletes for performance enhancement
  7. syberia is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by HigherLearning
    there is a pretty big difference between the steroids you're talking about and the ones used by athletes for performance enhancement
    Yeah, i am aware of that. Possibly why i'm not taking them to enhance my preformance.

    ;)


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  8. Sang is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Investigating professional athletes for steroids is like investigating wing chun schools for bullshido, a waste of time. Also, wrong forum noob.
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    Posted On:
    8/21/2008 1:40am


     Style: Systema, BJJ, Arrestling

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    Quote Originally Posted by syberia
    I've been prescribed steroids before. My doctor though i had a immune system issue because of a rash on my arm. I never filled the scrip, left it for two weeks and the rash was gone.

    Though, i'm all good now if i want to take them i guess.

    Score!!
    DO NOT TAKE THOSE CORTICOSTERIODS!!

    I WAS FORCED TO TAKE THEM VIA AN IV DRIP BY THE US ARMY FOR ASTHMA.

    THEY MADE ME CRAZIER THAN A SHITHOUSE RAT ON CRACK DIPPED IN FORMALDEHYDE, (AND THIS IS ME TALKING!!!)

    DO NOT TAKE THEM!
    Quote Originally Posted by Cullion
    You sound like a foaming-at-the-mouth-loon out of Dr. Strangelove.
    Sometimes, we put Ricin in the Cocaine. :ninja7:
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFGOON
    DO NOT TAKE THOSE CORTICOSTERIODS!!

    I WAS FORCED TO TAKE THEM VIA AN IV DRIP BY THE US ARMY FOR ASTHMA.

    THEY MADE ME CRAZIER THAN A SHITHOUSE RAT ON CRACK DIPPED IN FORMALDEHYDE, (AND THIS IS ME TALKING!!!)

    DO NOT TAKE THEM!
    You make a compelling argument, i however, am still tempted to do it just for shits and giggles.


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