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  1. It is Fake is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by f4n4n
    I was just pointing out that it is important to have good instructors and that I was lucky enough to have them, nothing more, nothing less.
    Well, it reads like you are using it to bolster your "Then they are wrong/stupid," statement.

    I agree with some of what you are saying. The comeback is only one component. That is what I disagree with partially.
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    I was mainly speaking about kicks with more than 180 rotation.
    Sometimes you lose and sometimes the other guy wins.

    At this point I don't owe anybody an explenation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldman34
    Yes, but how do you base the percentage?
    Why train a 360 jump spin hook, when a simple front kick would suffice?
    It makes it easier to explain why something is better, to the newb/ninjars who show up here.
    oldman - you're using examples at extreme ends of the spectrum (axe kick vs. right hook, 360 spin kick vs. front kick). How about use your argument to discuss the merits of a side kick versus a front kick, or a right hook versue an elbow or uppercut etc. I understand you're trying to create a general framework for noobs.

    I base the % on MY training, MY experience, MY results, MY instructors' criticism. What works for me more often is definitely not the same for my training partners.
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    Some techniques are low percentage in general, but are high percentage in very specific situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poker
    Erm I think right cross usually beats right hook in most scenarios, and if both fighters throw at the same time the cross pwns. Right hook only relevant in in fighting or as thrown by southpaws and sluggers.
    You're completely missing my point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lily
    oldman - you're using examples at extreme ends of the spectrum (axe kick vs. right hook, 360 spin kick vs. front kick). How about use your argument to discuss the merits of a side kick versus a front kick, or a right hook versue an elbow or uppercut etc. I understand you're trying to create a general framework for noobs.

    I base the % on MY training, MY experience, MY results, MY instructors' criticism. What works for me more often is definitely not the same for my training partners.
    This is sort-of my point. Extreme ends of the spectrum will have obvious results and won't say anything, much less anything we don't already know.

    But even if you use less extreme techniques, I still don't think you're getting any practical results that say much of anything.
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