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  1. Arctos1964 is offline
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    7/15/2008 11:38pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    Just Because *I* Can't

    John's rules for martial arts/unarmed combat/self defence:

    1) There is no such thing as a completely useless or completely dominant martial art

    2) Doing *anything* is better than doing nothing (includes running away)

    3) Just because *I* can't do it or understand it, does NOT mean it cannot be done or does not exist.

    I would like to focus on the last one.

    *I* can't do it: best example, I had a tkd teacher who could slap block a jab punch with his foot and then bring the foot back across --without re-chambering it-- and cause you serious pain. Picture a front hook kick to block, followed by a round kick to strike (or the reverse), without pausing or re-chambering. *I* can't do it but it *can* be done.

    *I* can't understand/perceive it: best example, how does electricity work? Yes, I know, electrons flowing along a wire, blah blah. Problem is, if you really investigate it, nobody *actually* knows; the electron thing is only one theory of several. Same for magnetism, gravity, etc.

    So, how can "you" say that ki/chi/prana does or does not exist? "You" can say that people use it to lower autonomic function to near coma, or simply learn to regulate their body functions. Or sense attack from behind/in the dark, or walk on coals or any of the other things associated with or credited to this oogy-boogy super force, and just as hotly denied by the doubters. Problem is, it's all down to which theory you endorse.

    OK, then. Let the abuse begin.

    - John
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    are you serious?
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    7/15/2008 11:51pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Munacra
    are you serious?
    Hardly life and death but it was topic de jour at work today.

    I am serious about "my" rules and about the electricity, et al.
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    In before YMAS.
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    no seriously, are you serious?

    you can't be serious.
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    He's seriously serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razamataz
    In before YMAS.
    Raz: If you're saying that this has been posed before (in YMAS), that could well be.

    You can imagine the hits I got back when I entered "ki" in the search form

    If it's been been posted like this before, I certainly won't object if a mod kills the thread

    Edit: *really* serious when I say that clowns are scary (it's still a classy avatar, munacra)
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    It's not going to YMAS, maybe Trollshido depending on what happens in the next few posts.

    Seriously, where is your skepticism in this thread?
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    I'm just saying, your philosophy of giving things a chance its goodhearted, but it won't win you any friends in an internet forum where these questions have been posed ad naseum for the last five years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve
    Seriously, where is your skepticism in this thread?
    That's what I meant.

    [seriousness] There are people that can make some pretty funky stuff work (see: Genki Sudo, Mazaki Iminari), but those people are one-of-a-kind and don't represent the general MA population so training like them is a waste of time. Work on the high percentage moves and stop being so forgiving to things because they might/kina/maybe/under the right circumstances work. [/seriousness]
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