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  1. AtxAxLoss is offline

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    7/15/2008 9:35am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!

    A video full of Villari's people I used to know.

    Hi, I haven't posted here in a bit. I was looking to get back into some martial arts, but I've been out of a job. I wasn't in MA mode as much as I was in "bum around all the time and forget what day it is" mode. I only had the vaguest idea what time of the month it was by the phase of the moon, which is weird.


    Anyways, I found this video on Youtube. It's a bunch of people talking about the Villari's system over some clips from competitions and demos. It's my understanding that the Villari's system isn't seen so kindly here on the Bullshido forums, so I thought you guys could weigh in on the video.


    YouTube - FYI: Villari's Self Defense
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    Posted On:
    7/15/2008 10:26am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    The fat guy wearing the jack-o-lantern shirt is worth the price of admission.
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     Style: Regretfully, TKD.

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    Wow, that was just horrible. Those were the clips they chose to show off?
  4. AtxAxLoss is offline

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    7/15/2008 10:57am

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    Apparently. I'm not sure who it was that put it together, though.
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    Posted On:
    7/15/2008 11:24am


     Style: judo

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    That school, in that clip, isn't that bad. They have sparring and they do not ignore grappling. I have seen far worse than that dojo.
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    7/15/2008 11:31am


     Style: Yoshi orc + Judo noob

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    It looks like it's especially designed to fight little kids with. Ditto digging the Jack-o-lantern guy!
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    That school doesn't seem to bad but thats only a 3 minute clip.

    Theres still a ton wrong with it in my opinion, but I guess its a step in the right direction.
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    Posted On:
    7/15/2008 12:11pm

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    "Where's your snake?"
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    sum ting wong! That video sucked.
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    7/15/2008 1:13pm


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    Ugh.

    It's still Shaolin Kempo Karate Kung Fu Kikkoman Kelly Klarkson Kowpie.

    They just added overly agitated, spazzy grappling without a basic understanding of groundfighting principals.

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    Unfortunately, I think Shaolin Kempo would need a complete overhaul to be effective.

    You would need a:
    -Qualified Grappling Instructor
    -Qualified MMA Instructor
    -Qualified Shaolin Kempo Instructor
    -(?) Qualified Krav Maga (or other simplified "Self Defense" system) Instructor

    Then, you would need to comb through the entire system and modify EVERYTHING to create a workable, realistic program.

    This would probably entail:
    -Changes in stances/strikes/kicks/blocks.
    -Removal of "Lung Punches" from every Defensive Maneuver.
    -Removal of Point Sparring (except for kids).
    -Either a CLEAR separation of Forms from Fighting...or a complete rework of the forms to reflect fighting.

    The end result should have:
    -All Defensive Maneuvers targeted against realistic strikes, be of realistic length/complexity, and be applicable in a resistant situation.
    -Strikes/Kicks/Blocks that work against full-power MMA style rules.
    -Forms that are clearly understood as "Show"...or forms that reinforce basics without extensive study.

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    The question, of course, is would this still be Shaolin Kempo Karate?
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