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  1. Freddy is offline

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    As long as this fish arn't sold in tropical region's, I see no problem with them, they can't live anywhere else so whats the point?
    "ARGH SURF NINJAS *implodes* " the cruel fate of Stold3
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    tropical organisms have a long history of establishing in california. establishment also can't be simply predicted based on orgin.
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    Sort of like Alligators in the sewage system type of thing.

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    However, american bullfrogs are eating our house pets (and anything else that doesn't run fast enough) and termites are beginning to be a problem. The joys of illegal aliens...

    On a related topic, how much "right" do you all think we have to manipulate flora and fauna in the first place and where would you draw the line?

    My viewpoint is in a choice between an animal and a hunger, meat is dinner. Where I draw the line is if it's done purely for aesthetics, which includes breeding hairless or ragdoll cats and many of the best in show pedigree dogs. Glofish would definitely be in here
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    Originally posted by Dochter
    tropical organisms have a long history of establishing in california. establishment also can't be simply predicted based on orgin.
    See I did not know that.

    But that brings up another question, how will this fish survive when they look so different from the enviorment? Glow in the dark fish look like they be easy to catch.
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    there is some work on the survivability of white lab rodents in "field" situations, if I ever finish my dissertation proposal I'll look into it for this discussion.

    I think they wouldn't be that poorly effected though, organisms are highly resilient.
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    Survivability also depends in part on the presence of the predators which are normally the first to go in urban/polluted areas. There's a fair amount of non-scientific (not quantified under standard survey/field conditions) that domestic rodents have affected rats in London through in-breeding with the local population, reducing their fear of man.
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