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  1. Dsimon3387 is offline

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    Jim Jim Jim.... Sending your intelligence out in the field eh? Lets put things in Wagnerian terms: Steve is Wagner's head Ninja in the field. As Jim defeats a propoganda campaigne from the viscous huns at Bullshido.

    Hahahaha I love it counter terrorism missions :glasses6: and now sending out the philadelphia lawyers..... Oy vay!

    Listen Steve go chase another ambulance.... thats advice from a former entertainment security consultant and combat strategy engineer ( I was a bouncer hahahha). Thats me yeaaah a conflict resolution specialist. No what I mean ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dsimon3387
    Listen Steve go chase another ambulance.... thats advice from a former entertainment security consultant and combat strategy engineer ( I was a bouncer hahahha). Thats me yeaaah a conflict resolution specialist. No what I mean ?
    That actually made laugh.

    I mean following the current line of logic, I know John McCain.
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    ok so in short we have this guy Steve making a case for Wagner eventhough he says he doesnt, uses legal terminology and refuses to answer questions about where he comes from.

    it's pretty clear to me and im pretty dumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lebell
    ok so in short we have this guy Steve making a case for Wagner eventhough he says he doesnt, uses legal terminology and refuses to answer questions about where he comes from.

    it's pretty clear to me and im pretty dumb.
    Yeah, that's pretty much it in a nutshell. Perhaps we should get back to Wagner.

    Edit - BTW, thanks for getting us back on track, although the Steve bunny trail was enjoyable . . .
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    "The reason Reality-Based Personal Protection is the “original reality-based martial art” is and not just because Jim Wagner coined the phrase back in 1999, but because of his background that few self-instructors can match: former soldier, corrections officer, street cop, SWAT team officer, diplomatic bodyguard, counterterrorist Special Agent for the United States government after 9/11, police and military firearms instructor, tactics instructor, and defensive tactics instructor"

    The above is from Wagner's website. Are all Air Marshalls Special Agents? I went to the TSA website and could not determine. Maybe one of the law enforcement officers here can answer.
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    http://www.jimwagnertraining.com/tra...criptions.html

    scroll down to Jim Wagners "Buisness & Leadership" and "Advertising & Marketing"...loool
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    Is there any way to figure out what firm Jim Wagner was president of?
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    Don't know if this has been brought up yet...

    I watched "Where in the World is Osama Bin Laden" last night (new documentary by Morgan Sperlock - worth checking out the DVD) and guess who trains him in all his anti-terrorist tactics that are going to keep Spurlock safe in all the dangerous parts of the world he will travel to in the film...Jim Wagner and his reality based training, right up there on the big screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Browning
    Hey Ben, what do you think of his "advanced Scout Sniper Cert" The one that isn't signed by anyone.

    http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies384.htm
    That one might actually be signed on the back. I have a couple of those types of certificates from my time in the Marine Corps (about the same year too) and weirdly the sig line, rank, authority, etc. are typed and signed on the reverse side toward the bottom. I've always thought the guy was full of it personally but I wouldn't judge on the validity of that cert alone :-)
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    While I am largely ignorant of the issues surrounding Jim Wagner's claims (real or implied) aside from seeing some of his cheesy ads in BB (one of the reasons I haven't bought one in years!) I have known folks who served in the CSMR (California State Military Reserve). With few exception, all were former honorably discharged NCO's or Officers in the U.S. Armed Forces and NONE of them ever implied to me that they were anything but members of a STATE force that served in disaster relief, auxiliary functions for the CNG (California National Guard), and aided wherever they could in state level areas. Not one ever implied to me (or others I know of) that they were CT operators, that their CSMR grades were anything but state appointments, or that they were going to or returning from "war' as a result of their CSMR membership. In fact, at the time I was a uniformed volunteer for the Coast Guard (aux - NOT regular or reserve!) and they told me their org. was similiar to the Auxiliary with the exception that they could be legally called out for disaster (natural or civil) relief, whereas I could not - I would have to volunteer as an individual - and would NOT be armed. Not a wannabee in the CSMR bunch (that I met, at least) If Mr. Wagner is parlaying volunteer CSMR status into something it is not, I would be very disappointed and I think most of the actual CSMR folks I met would be as well. Please don't judge these folks based upon any actions by a certain Mr. Wagner. His gun-toting "The Unit" type ads are not representative of these dedicated volunteers.
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