Revision of Unified MMA Rules (7/3/08)

**Wolf** · Posted On: 7/04/2008 10:36am

I don't see the UFC adopting all the rules. I doubt we're going to see all these weightclasses.

**G-Off** · Posted On: 7/04/2008 4:41pm

The weightclasses are definitely my least favorite part of the revisions. The "smothering" rule is stupid, but I don't see that being a big part of anyone's game being taken away. I mean, people do it sure (Hendo vs. Anderson Silva), but it's not going to have much of an impact.

I think it'd make much more sense to have 15 lbs between weight classes, since it's close to that now. 10-pound increments worries me, because part of what's wrong with boxing is the huge number of weightclasses that are a constantly decreasing amount of weight apart. Besides, what do you now call the 165 lb. weight class if 175 is welterweight and 155 is presumably still lightweight? Please god don't start with **** like "light welterweight" or whatever.

What Gary Goodridge's crucifix-->repeated elbows to the head count as this? Because that is the most epic, yet horrifyingly rape-like GNP I've ever witnessed, and I always kind of wondered why the back crucifix GNP went away.

That would indeed be legal. Not to the "mohawk" area of the head or the spine, and downward is fine.

**pauli** · Posted On: 7/04/2008 5:21pm

here are the numbers (in kg and lbs) and names i'd been toying with a while back, 7% spacing:

120 265 heavy
100 220 light heavy
93 205 cruiser
86.5 191 super middle
80.4 177 middle
74.8 165 welter
69.6 153 light
64.7 143 feather
60.2 133 bantam
56 123 fly
52 115 straw
48.4 107 minimum

the new ones don't scale nicely at all, though they're more even than current classes.

what would people think of:

155 light
167 welter
180 middle
195 cruiser
210 light heavy
265 heavy?

**G-Off** · Posted On: 7/04/2008 6:29pm

This is sort of what I was afraid of with the new weight classes. New article with some clarification: http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=13533. Knees to the head on the ground were apparently discussed and voted down >_<

105: Flyweight
115: Super Flyweight
125: Bantamweight
135: Super Bantamweight
145: Featherweight
155: Lightweight
165: Super Lightweight
175: Welterweight
185: Super Welterweight
195: Middleweight
205: Super Middleweight
225: Light Heavyweight
265: Heavyweight
266+: Super Heavyweight

All the "supers" bother me just a little. I mean, what the hell does "super" lightweight mean? Adding super to lower weight classes, and even the names for the lightest weightclasses just sound silly. How is anyone supposed to know from the name whether flyweight is heavier than featherweight or not? I mean, a fly could weigh more than a feather, yeah? Maybe it's just me.

Women's weight classes have the same name progression, starting at 95 (flyweight) and going strictly in 10 lb. increments up to 185+ (super heavy). Hooray, Gina Carano finally has a weight class!

**3moose1** · Posted On: 7/05/2008 1:31am

Originally Posted by pauli

those people can watch yamma.

the new weightclasses aren't as good as the ones i'd been working on, but they are nice and round, and i agree with the ranges they are at.

edit: my next hope is that they'll do the same thing with boxing weight classes.

After actually hearing his plan on weightclasses, i agree with his statement.

**T3hJudoChop** · Posted On: 7/05/2008 8:40am

I don't see the big deal with these weight classes. Really, as far as the UFC is concerned, they would only be adding three new weight classes. The UFC doesn't show anything below lightweight, and I don't think there are enough entertaining super hvy's out there to make a division worthwhile. I'm actually interested to see what happens with these new weightclasses. I could see potential fights that would have been too difficult with a 15 lb weight difference happening now that the difference is reduced to 10 between each class.

**yodaman** · Posted On: 7/05/2008 9:46am

Originally Posted by Wolf

I don't see the UFC adopting all the rules. I doubt we're going to see all these weightclasses.

Agreed. I see them basically using their weight classes as catchweights to get around the regulation (the same way EliteXC did for their 160lb title), but they'll definitely adapt the other stuff. Hooray for downward Thai elbows and crucifix beatdowns!

**Snake Plissken** · Posted On: 7/05/2008 9:54am

Originally Posted by Wolf

I don't see the UFC adopting all the rules. I doubt we're going to see all these weightclasses.

More weightclasses mean more titles.
More titles mean more champions.
More champions mean more championship fights.

I can see the UFC adding the new weightclasses as it will help them with PPV promotions....especially in some of the "log-jammed" divisions.

**Shadowdean** · Posted On: 7/05/2008 10:51am

Maybe I can find a promotion for me to fight in, being I weigh 115 lbs! :X...Oh yeah, doesn't shooto more or less follow those weight classes?

**GrapeS** · Posted On: 7/05/2008 11:18am

the bj penn smother i watched in his video isn't legal nemore? lame but if you can put your hand that close to their mouth they should be legally able to bite u