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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    It looks cool though, and really isn't that whats most important.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    It's great for pictures...especially if you're posing for the cover of BlackBelt.

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    It helps you win trophies at karate tournaments--forms competition.

    Then, ironically, it creates extremely bad habits for your fighting technique.

    Do slow motion kicking and hold them for a few seconds and then eventually use leg weights. This will condition. Don't kick fast with leg weights on.

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    It is a good drill for balance and strengthening. It is a drill only, not usually valid fighting technique, although it has some uses.

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    never kick full speed into the air, you need some resistence, the knees you save will be your own.
    As for holding the kicks, what benefit would you get from doing that?
    Strength? I am sure there are much better ways of developing leg/hip strength.
    Speed? nope.
    Control? only if you are going to be kicking like that in a real situation.
    Conditioning? of what?

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    The only way this type of behavior should have any effect on your sparring is if the student in question is what we used to call a "wet fish" and decided to actually try something like in in a live situation.

    If that happens its the fault of the INSTRUCTOR for not pointing out why the student was holding the kick in the first place. After THAT, even for a dumass, he should learn within a time frame of about 10 seconds that your foot needs to be placed in base ASAP. If he doesn't learn that then his sparring partners suck and he needs to find another school.
    "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


    Reverse punch Kiaii!!!

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    Kicks NEED to be practiced on the air. Every champion from kickboxing and muay thai practiced in front of a mirror for long amounts of time. This includes Peter Aerts and the late Andy Hug. Its the job of your instructor to remind you not to kick in a matter that may hyper-extend your knee. Since you're going to be practicing kicking anyway you may as well get a little muscle work in at the same time.

    Practice a push kick(front kick) with your back leg and at the end of the kick hold the ball of your foot out for 2 seconds. You may not even be able to do it for 2 seconds without your leg shaking. It builds the muscles of your leg in the exact same motion that they work while executing the kick. Your hip flexor will also appreciate the extra work and you'll find your flexibility coming along easier.

    To tell you the truth, the only kick I use this excersise on anymore in my rear leg front kick. My quads are pretty cut up because of it though.
    "All warfare is based on deception." -Sun Tzu, ca. 400BC


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    Doesn't help with balance? If it doesn't what are good balance excercises? Yoga?

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    exactly, JustMe

    for some reason everyone thinks it is not sport specific training.

    And it most assuredly is.

    Nor is is dangerous to one's health


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    I don't know of anyone that kicks full speed into the air, shadow boxing is NOT done at full speed.
    As for balance, sure it works balance, for kicking into the air, how 'sport specific" that is depends on what you are training for.

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