Portrait of a BJJer as a Young Man
Posted On:6/25/2008 3:05pm
The other retard assumption you made, Iphaltuus (other than submission = stolen base), is that all fans are the same. The brazilians and japanese love their grappling. They had a great apprechiation for technical ground wars before (and probably still to a greater extent) than american fans. I know you mentioned only american organizations in the OP (now you know what it means!), but still.
Posted On:6/25/2008 3:09pm
It's prolly coz BJJ is the gayest thing ever.
Originally Posted by Goju - joe
being a dick with skill is only marginally better than being a dick without skill.
Posted On:6/25/2008 3:15pm
Fighters are learning that the sprawl really does work.
That is all.
Posted On:6/25/2008 3:29pm
I don't know but in an interview Jess Liaudin said that he thinks that MMA will pretty much become kickboxing with little gloves and occasional grappling. I sure hope not.
Posted On:6/25/2008 4:01pm
I was talking about the American market because that is the market with the highest financial potential. Since there's so much money to be made in the states I imagine that the organizations would and seem to revolve around it, using Pride as an example of a foreign market being financially overtaken of course.
In our history, the classic familiarity of combat sports in the US (not to mention Central America since we have so many immigrants from there, nor the European market having a long history with standup sports such as kickboxing, savate and boxing themselves) has been boxing. Even though the numbers are dwindling, as many boxing fans have switched to mma (myself included), I meant that it seems to me that the prospect of gaining a new fan base from that conditioned target group might have some effect on the fighters, trainers etc of the Zuffa organization today.
Due to the potential of income from marketing one's own name as a source outside of the organization itself, I don't believe that it would be too far a stretch for a fighter to not only work harder on their stand up game, but even seek to showcase it.
Now, I'm not saying that fighters out there will be so ignorant as to think that they can replace their ground game, I am simply suggesting that it is very possible for them to try to be more exiting for boxing fans in order to sell their own name at a higher price. Statistically, I imagine that there is in fact much more potential income from sponsors than the purse of a given fight, a difference that can't possibly always be ignored.
I realize of course that it is most likely every fighters dream to become the champion, and they know that they must be a well rounded fighter to do so, but for many fighters the financial reality steps into their career at one point or another. So, just as home runs, touchdowns, yardage and goals might become a higher priority to a player on a team than his/her team's record, isn't it possible that some fighters might be more concerned with a fan base income than the championship belt, or the income of a fight itself?
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Posted On:6/25/2008 4:13pm
No, because they don't get the fan base if they don't win in the first place.
Posted On:6/25/2008 6:51pm
So you mean to say that going for a knockout guarantees a loss?
Posted On:6/25/2008 7:18pm
No, but screwing up your priorities might.
Posted On:6/25/2008 9:56pm
And that seems to happen to fighters often.
Posted On:6/25/2008 9:59pm
So maybe the answer to your question is 'Yes, there are fighters that go for big highlight finishes to try and win fans, they just don't win.'
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