UFC 86 - Quinton Jackson vs Forrest Griffen Jul-5-2008

**Fighting Cephalopod** · Posted On: 6/24/2008 3:45pm

Originally Posted by Blue Negation

Rampage has only ever been submitted by Sakuraba.

Which is extremely meaningful when you consider all the amazing sub guys he's fought, like

**new2bjj** · Posted On: 6/24/2008 3:48pm

By all appearances Rampage would crush Griffin, but Griffin is one resilient guy, so who knows? There should be some actual suspense to this one.

**Valiss** · Posted On: 6/24/2008 3:56pm

I guess I'll go against the popular bullshido vote and say Rampage crushes Forrest in the 2nd.

**Blue Negation** · Posted On: 6/24/2008 4:02pm

Originally Posted by fatherdog

Which is extremely meaningful when you consider all the amazing sub guys he's fought, like

yeah, i thought about that after I posted and went and looked. Arona's the only other credible sub guy... and he's Arona.

Forrest might have a better chance than I thought of catching a sub, but again - he subbed Shogun after beating the **** out of him so bad Shogun did the belly down turtle no-no. Rampage's solid boxing, I think, will provide a much bigger barrier to that.

**Tangerine** · Posted On: 6/24/2008 7:04pm

^^^QFT

Without striking, Forrest's sub game isn't as effective. He will NOT beat the **** out of Rampage.

**Kentucky Fried Chokin** · Posted On: 6/24/2008 7:12pm

I'm pretty sure Rampage isn't going to gas out like Shogun did. I think Rampage is going to mangle Forrest.

**Fighting Cephalopod** · Posted On: 6/24/2008 7:16pm

Originally Posted by Razamataz

I'm pretty sure Rampage isn't going to gas out like Shogun did.

Yes, I can't imagine why anyone would think a guy who's notorious for not liking to train, was sporting a visible gut during TUF, and has only been five rounds once, against a middleweight who's not known for his cardio, might gas against a LHW who walks around at 240 and has some of the best cardio in the sport.

**ADM** · Posted On: 6/24/2008 7:22pm

Some big names on this card that I'm looking forward to:

Cote, Josh gotta love em both. Gonzaga ... still an amazing fighter just doesn't seem to have hit his 'peak' yet. At least I hope that's the case.

Surprised to see they brought back Melvin after his bad sportsmanship from his previous fights, amongst other things. But everyone deserves another chance, hopefully he'll make the most of it and clean up his act.

As for Griffin vs Jackson ... I honestly can't call this. I'll be cheering for Forrest but if I had money I have no idea who to put it on. As already stated I think if Griffin wins it'll go the way of an Amir fight or something.

**Kentucky Fried Chokin** · Posted On: 6/24/2008 7:46pm

Originally Posted by fatherdog

Yes, I can't imagine why anyone would think a guy who's notorious for not liking to train, was sporting a visible gut during TUF, and has only been five rounds once, against a middleweight who's not known for his cardio, might gas against a LHW who walks around at 240 and has some of the best cardio in the sport.

Forget five rounds. Shogun didn't even go three rounds.

**TEA** · Posted On: 6/24/2008 8:23pm

I like Rampage and Griffin a lot, so it's hard for me to call from an emotional standpoint. That said, I think Rampage is going to knock the **** out of Forrest ala Keith Jardine. I'm predicting Rampage late in the 1st round by TKO. However, I wouldn't not be heartbroken at all if Forrest proves me wrong. That's why I'm looking forward to this fight so much, because although I think Rampage has the edge, I'll be happy no matter who wins. In fact, I might even be a bit more happy if Forrest wins because I tend to like to root for the underdog.