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  1. Asriel is offline
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    I'd like to leave this world like I came into it: Screaming, naked & covered in someone else's blood

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    Posted On:
    6/24/2008 3:16pm

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I've been experiencing this myself and have only just come out of it. The cause? Over training. I was training every weekday after an 8 hour job, spending time with my GF and kid and my body wasn't recovering properly. I was mentally and physically sluggish and gassing awfully quickly.

    I now traing Jits every other day and do cardio on my off days and I feel like a new man. I can explode into moves now rather than dragging myself through them.

    Are you getting enough recovery time/sleep?
    " The reason elite level MMAists don't fight with aikido is the same reason elite level swimmers don't swim with their lips." - Virus

    " I shocked him with my skills on the ice becuase Wing Chun is great for hockey fighting." - 'Sifu' Milt Wallace

    "Besides, as you might already know (from Virus, for example) - there's only 1 wing chun and it sucks big time" - Tonuzaba

    "Even when I'm promising mayhem and butt-chicanery, I'm generally posting with a smile on my face." - Sochin101

    "That said, if he blocked my hip on a drop nage, I would extend my leg into a drop tai Otoshi and slam him so hard his parents would die." - MTripp

  2. SuperGuido is offline
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    Posted On:
    6/24/2008 8:06pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Thanks KayRok. Few things rip a man's gut like a divorce.

    I also believe I'm over training, as I was spending EVERY DAY (except Sundays) training. It was the only way to blow off steam, and distract me from my issues.

    Now, I'm trying to go every day, but skip the initial work out on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I show up an hour late, catch the lesson, roll half speed with newbs/kids, and call it a day.

    We'll see how that works out. I'm still tired, sore, injured, and firmly within that rut...but all things in time, I suppose.
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    Posted On:
    6/24/2008 10:09pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I have been in a rut for a few months now, out of it now and back into the swing of things, I actually needed to start training at another club (our grappling numbers in my club are small) as well as my current one to get more of a flow back.

    Change and variety really does promote growth
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    Posted On:
    6/25/2008 12:23am


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Ive been progressing alot faster going at one class per week now than when i did 4-5 times a week a couple months back.

    A general lack of interest for bjj, shift of priorities, life and etc... means that whenever i go to class, i have a hard time caring about the tap or being tapped by people with lesser experience.

    In most case, i roll as if it were a simple game, so i explore all possible venues. Baiting the kimura to take the back from my partners open guard. Faking being swept to pass the guard. Going less often means that i either mentally simplify the complex techniques or i forget them. It sounds a bit counterintuitive, i admit.

    And white belts will do funky stuff if you let them, and you can learn from it and improve on it.

    I reckon youre sticking to a plan each time youre rolling. A flawed plan as people are not dummies and do learn your tricks. Especially if you roll in a robotic fashion with a fixed plan.

    On the side, i spent most of my time doing yoga routine which has improved my base and conditioning tenfold.

    Jiujitsu causes alot of trauma to the body. I feel grumpy as hell each morning after jiujitsu, and that has a bad effect on performance afterwards I find.

    Anyways, thats that for the moment.
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    Posted On:
    6/25/2008 1:30am

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartialArtN00b
    Ive been progressing alot faster going at one class per week now than when i did 4-5 times a week a couple months back.

    A general lack of interest for bjj, shift of priorities, life and etc... means that whenever i go to class, i have a hard time caring about the tap or being tapped by people with lesser experience.

    In most case, i roll as if it were a simple game, so i explore all possible venues. Baiting the kimura to take the back from my partners open guard. Faking being swept to pass the guard. Going less often means that i either mentally simplify the complex techniques or i forget them. It sounds a bit counterintuitive, i admit.

    And white belts will do funky stuff if you let them, and you can learn from it and improve on it.

    I reckon youre sticking to a plan each time youre rolling. A flawed plan as people are not dummies and do learn your tricks. Especially if you roll in a robotic fashion with a fixed plan.

    On the side, i spent most of my time doing yoga routine which has improved my base and conditioning tenfold.

    Jiujitsu causes alot of trauma to the body. I feel grumpy as hell each morning after jiujitsu, and that has a bad effect on performance afterwards I find.

    Anyways, thats that for the moment.
    Not sure what you do before or after the class but if possible, try these steps.

    Do a good warm up before class and get a really good overall stretch. Not just the legs and arm, get the back, spine, neck, knees, thighs, groin, etc, etc, etc. try stretches that stretch multiple muscles and do isolation stretches for the really sore stuff, focusing on them.

    Do a harder stretch RIGHT after class. You should be extremely warmed up after rolling at the end of class. That is the perfect time to stretch your muscles out, no better time in my opinion. You will sleep better that night. You will stop waking up in the morning feeling like you were ran over a black belt truck. You will increase your flexibility with will help prevent injuries as well as improve your Jiu-Jitsu.

    One problem I have, is that I can't do the warm ups because all the mats have classes on them before our BJJ class starts. I started doing them at home but then I would cool off at school and be back where I started. Your best bet is to get as much as you can out of the pre-technique workout and if there is stretching afterwards, take full advantage of it. If not, try to get some stretching in while techniques are being demonstrated, if possible. That's what I do.

    The stretching right after class is extremely important. I used to wait until I got home and would stretch but by then, my muscles and joints where stiff and it would hurt trying to do it. I would go to sleep sore and wake up even more sore. That's when I started doing it right after rolling. I would be so warmed up that I could stretch further and increase my flexibility. I used to be stiff as a son-of-a-bitch and could barely bring my foot to my belly button. Now, I can put my opposite foot under my opposite armpit and when I'm really warmed up and have gotten a few stretching repetitions in, I can put my foot behind my head.

    I know for sure it works because on the rare occasions I forget to stretch, the next morning, I feel like crap.

    ***NOTE***

    If you already know this, disregard.
  6. Asriel is offline
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    Posted On:
    6/25/2008 3:58am

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satori
    Thanks KayRok. Few things rip a man's gut like a divorce.

    I also believe I'm over training, as I was spending EVERY DAY (except Sundays) training. It was the only way to blow off steam, and distract me from my issues.

    Now, I'm trying to go every day, but skip the initial work out on Tuesdays and Thursdays. I show up an hour late, catch the lesson, roll half speed with newbs/kids, and call it a day.

    We'll see how that works out. I'm still tired, sore, injured, and firmly within that rut...but all things in time, I suppose.
    Also, are you taking any recovery supplements?
    " The reason elite level MMAists don't fight with aikido is the same reason elite level swimmers don't swim with their lips." - Virus

    " I shocked him with my skills on the ice becuase Wing Chun is great for hockey fighting." - 'Sifu' Milt Wallace

    "Besides, as you might already know (from Virus, for example) - there's only 1 wing chun and it sucks big time" - Tonuzaba

    "Even when I'm promising mayhem and butt-chicanery, I'm generally posting with a smile on my face." - Sochin101

    "That said, if he blocked my hip on a drop nage, I would extend my leg into a drop tai Otoshi and slam him so hard his parents would die." - MTripp

  7. Brooklyn is offline

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    Posted On:
    6/25/2008 10:40am

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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Wow. I'm going through the same thing. A month after I earned my Blue belt last summer I had to stop doing BJJ because I was going away for my first year in college. I have recently come back...and nothing seems to click. I'm finding my guard being passed too often...being lost when I attain a dominant position...etc. etc.

    So I suppose i'm in a "rut".
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    Posted On:
    6/25/2008 11:27am


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I just don't think that progress is linear in any athletic endeavor. People think that they will just continually get better, but it doesn't work like that - particularly when you are doing the same things you have done for a long period of time.

    A tip, a new game plan, new workout routine, etc will all at different times propel you to new heights, so do what everyone says and change it up from time to time.

    Also,

    Brooklyn, you aren't in a rut, you're just coming back from a long layoff.
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    Posted On:
    6/25/2008 11:56am


     Style: BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartialArtN00b

    Jiujitsu causes alot of trauma to the body. I feel grumpy as hell each morning after jiujitsu, and that has a bad effect on performance afterwards I find.
    I used to feel this way also, but started taking fish oil supplements, and a scoop of protein powder in the mornings and found that it alleviates a lot of the pain.

    My next step will be to find a supplement that reverses the aging process.
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    Posted On:
    6/25/2008 11:58am


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    Quote Originally Posted by Asriel
    Also, are you taking any recovery supplements?
    I am, actually.

    I've been prepping for a tournament (which I may now have to skip due to injury/work/attitude), so my routine has been pretty nuts.

    BJJ: 6 x Week
    Tabata's Protocol: 3 x Week
    Weights: 2 x Week

    For supplements:
    -Creatine
    -BCAAs
    -Glutamine
    -Ribose
    -Amino Acids
    -Glucosamine/MSM/Chondroitin
    -Omega 3/6/9
    -Multi
    -Green Tea Extract
    -Grape Seed Extract
    -St. John's Wort

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    As you can see, my routine is pretty solid...but injuries, moving, divorce, and work has kept me from recovering and truly sticking to my plan. I also recently cut 10 lbs in preparation for the tournament, which messed me up because I fasted.

    Recently, I've been skipping the BJJ workouts and showing up just for the lesson and some light rolling. I'm trying to focus on weights to help stabilize my back and shoulder and rebuild some strength.
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