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  1. maofas is offline
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    Cut soda out of your diet completely imo. It's a ton of extra calories for a measly drink.

    I bet most soda drinkers, if they switched to water, could eat a bit more food and still wind up intaking less calories overall.

    I used to room with a gamer dude who drank massive amounts of soda every day. The guy barely ate a thing, but still had a pot belly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RegularJoe
    Yesterday I had a bowl of Frosted Mini-Wheats for breakfast, two ham and cheese sandwiches and a pepsi for lunch, and I ate a BBQ burger at Buffalo Wild Wings for dinner with some friends.

    So..a beer gut is actually caused by beer, call me an idiot but it never really clicked that one was connected to the other, I knew it was called a beer gut but never made the connection..nobody's ever blamed me for being smart hehe.

    I can cut back on the beer. Is it all alcohol or just fizzy type stuff like beer?
    It really depends on the drink. Diet drinks that don't contain sugar won't therefore contain as many calories.

    It's around 200 calories per pint of beer though so five of those is an extra 1000 calories, plus whatever your half pissed brain decides it wants to eat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maofas
    I used to room with a gamer dude who drank massive amounts of soda every day. The guy barely ate a thing, but still had a pot belly.
    It sounds more like you lived with a veal.

    To RegularJoe:

    Again, this is all up to you.
    I am of the opinion of not drinking, as I don't see an upside, but if you are going to do it....you gotta do it in moderation.

    Some of the other guys made suggestions of still being able to have a high quality beer or a glass of wine.

    If you want to keep having a beer or a glass of wine there are suggestion on here to keep doing so.

    Now for your meals:

    breakfast:
    did you ONLY have Mini-Wheat and milk, I guess? Was it whole, 2%, skim?
    nothing else?

    no snack?

    lunch:
    how much ham and what kind?
    how much cheese and what kind?
    on bread, a roll, a bagel, a wrap?
    condiments?

    I would cut out the Pepsi. I allow myself one soda a day and it is usually a Fresca. If you want a cola, try a Spleda Diet Coke, a Diet Coke Plus (which at least has SOME minerals and vitamins) or for taste a Coke Zero.

    no snack?

    dinner:
    a BBQ burger. was is BBQed or drowned in BBQ sauce?
    cheese?
    sides?
    condiments?
    dessert?
    what to drink?

    some of this will help make alternative suggestions for you.

    Thanks and good luck!
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    Apologies if it's been said before but drink at least 2 litres of water a day
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    " I shocked him with my skills on the ice becuase Wing Chun is great for hockey fighting." - 'Sifu' Milt Wallace

    "Besides, as you might already know (from Virus, for example) - there's only 1 wing chun and it sucks big time" - Tonuzaba

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    I have read some of the threads about diets and I agree with El Macho's approach. When it come to diets it is about manager the suger levels in your blood stream. If the suger levels ware too hight, the body work it away with insulin. First the suger will go to the muscle cells and then stored in the fat cells. The idea is not to have the sugar level peak to high to prevent it going to the fat cells. A belly is one of the typical results of a diet that does not manage the blood sugar.

    To managed blood sugar there are three points to remember:
    1. Eat food that does not create a lot of blood sugar.
    To achieve this, cut down the cals and sugar - white bread, pasta, patotoes and even fruit juices. Fruit got a lot of sugar - fructose - and in a juice there is no fibre to slow down the sugar absorbsion in the blood. Sodas are only sugar water. Needles to say that they will creat high blood sugar peaks after drinking them.

    2. Eat small portions more regular through the day. Smaller portoin generate lesser blood sugar and the peaks which the body work away to the fat cells does not happen.

    3. Eat foods that slow down the sugar in the blood. This is e.g. fibre, proteien and food that lower the pH levels in the stomach. A breakfast of a high fibre cereal is a good start to the day.


    Look for Low GI food. The diet a diabetic follows is also a good indication what to eat.
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    #1 Eat your greens, brother!

    Doesn't sound like you eat vegetation of any kind. Potatoes and wheat don't count as veggies. Veggies are full of vitamins minerals soluble and insoluble fiber and all sorts of goodness that scientist haven't even named yet. If you don't like veggies it's likely that you don't know how to cook them properly. If so, then quickly learn the simple, yet valuable skill of cooking.

    # 2 Eat your greens, brother!
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    OP: I dont see anything wrong with drinking in moderation.

    But, I would strongly suggest abstaining completely until you reach your bodyfat target. The reason I say this is that alcohol puts the brakes on fat oxidation (by over 70% by some estimates if I remember correctly), which is of course not good if you are trying to cut bodyfat.

    The problem with drinking in moderation is defining what moderation is for you.

    Take some time to read on the effects of alcohol (other than the obvious increased calorie intake) ... especially regarding fat metabolism, and testosterone and estrogen levels and how that affects athletes. Then you can make an informed decision on how much and how often you want to drink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vieux Normand
    In answer to your first question, uh, no. My wife likes me as I am, and what hangs over my belt, you couldn't pinch an inch on. Half-an-inch maybe.
    Not to be overly alarming, but this is something to be concerned about.

    This suggests that you have a problem with visceral fat (the fat underneath the abdominal muscle, around intestines) and not subcutaneous fat (fat underneath the skin).

    There are some risk factors associated with high visceral fat - diabetes and cardiovascular disease come to mind. For a layman's review, see http://www.scienceblog.com/community...A/2002843.html

    I'd talk to a doctor, to be honest.
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    Thanks for that post dakotajudo. That's a very important take we hadn't considered it at all.
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