6/16/2008 4:23am, #51
Actually, you can score for "threatening" sub. attempts. Comes under "fighting area control". Obviously though, if you're being bombed on from inside your guard the rest of the round, you're going to have to try a lot of subs to win or draw the round.
Also, while you need to open guard to get most of the available sweeps or subs in, if you're going to break the guy down in closed guard, what's wrong with any of the closed rubber guard positions? Do the jits guys on TUF not know it? I've barely if ever seen rubber guard played on TUF, at least not lately.
6/16/2008 5:28am, #52
Looks like my early prediction of a Jess vs CB final is gonna happen.
Although i would like to see Amir win as he seems the most likelable.
I think CB has a much better chance of beating Jess than Amir though, I think if Amir manages to get past CB (which i doubt) Jess would just use his freakish strength to pin him down and sit on him.
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6/16/2008 6:06am, #53
To be honest I kept thinking Amir would lose all of his fights, but the guy had a lot of heart as well as some DAMN heavy hits.
That said I really don't see someone with CB's skill falling victim. Just saying it 'could' happen :)
6/16/2008 11:51am, #54
In a surprising twist, JT Money get's the boot but Jesse gets a second chance!
...One can hope.
6/16/2008 11:57am, #55Do the jits guys on TUF not know it? I've barely if ever seen rubber guard played on TUF, at least not lately.
You hear it spoken of quite a bit in UFC, especially because Joe Rogan is a high-level student under its exponent, Eddie Bravo, and Joe Rogan is one of the voices of MMA, literally.
But its utilization? Rubber guard is like the "Crazy Monkey" boxing style - it's a fairly different-looking take on conventional wisdom, and there are pockets of individuals who utilize it (Tito Ortiz vs. Liddell in UFC 40-something for CM), but it's not part of the majority
6/16/2008 12:45pm, #56Originally Posted by gzk
also, what Judah said.
6/16/2008 12:50pm, #57Originally Posted by Judah Maccabee"Face punches are an essential character building part of a martial art. You don't truly love your children unless you allow them to get punched in the face." - chi-conspiricy
"When I was a little boy, I had a sailor suit, but it didn't mean I was in the Navy." - Mtripp on the subject of a 5 year old karate black belt
"Without actual qualifications to be a Zen teacher, your instructor is just another roundeye raping Asian culture for a buck." - Errant108
"Seriously, who gives a **** what you or Errant think? You're Asian males, everyone just ignores you, unless you're in a krotty movie." - new2bjj
6/16/2008 1:02pm, #58Originally Posted by Ming Loyalist
6/16/2008 2:27pm, #59
Originally Posted by gzkOriginally Posted by Judah Maccabee
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As for Crazy Monkey, that's still somewhat of a new concept to striking. The only reason I heard of it was because a guy was opening a SBG in the area and in researching his credentials and that of the SBG organization as a whole, I came across Rodney King's stuff. There are very few people who know it and fewer who know it well. Similar to Rubber Guard in that effect. Rampage uses it very effectively to avoid damage in his fights.
You could look at both in terms of Judo in MMA. There are few people who do it in MMA and fewer who can actually do it well and effectively in MMA. it will just take time.
Change of pace:
Another excellent blog by Mike Dolce regarding the stuff that goes on at TUF. If it's been posted already then oh well, it needs to be read again.
6/16/2008 2:27pm, #60
Everybody yelling about Tim's lack of athleticism and "going to his back too early in the scramble" are apparently missing the fact that he had a pretty obvious shoulder injury going into the match (he barely uses his left arm at all, and when they show him giving advice to Jesse in training he has a gigantic bag of ice strapped to it).Undisputed KING OF ASSHOLES.