TUF season 7, Episode 11: just the icing on the ice-cream...

**Matt W.** · Posted On: 6/12/2008 12:19pm

30-26 was definitely not called for. But you don't get credit for "trying" subs, whether it's right or wrong not withstanding. So, I knew if it went to a decision it was going to be all 3 rounds to Jesse.

I think Tim is awesome, though and wanted him to win. I'd say at this point he simply needs to get stronger (looked like a huge strength disparity between him and Jesse) and work on his wrestling so he can dictate how the fight goes to the ground instead of always ending up on the bottom. If I may reference my new hero...

YouTube - Judo For Jackasses

**Beezer** · Posted On: 6/12/2008 12:42pm

I thought the coaching on that episode was great. At first I thought it might be unfair for Forrest to be coaching Jesse, but, the BJJ coach was great for Tim. I know it's hard to do the things the coaching staff is yelling out, while, one is getting rained on with punches and elbows, but, if Tim would have dropped the closed guard earlier, and stayed with the butterfly guard, he would have had better success. At least that's my newbie/couch watching opinion. My wife called Jesse to win by GnP, I was going with Tim by submission. Wives are smart.

Ummm, someone better teach Rampage how to play basketball, and Forrest won by a dunk. HOLY ****!

**Red512S** · Posted On: 6/12/2008 2:21pm

I totally agree about Tim needing to utilize his butterfly and sweeps more, but I can only say so much being that I wasn't the one fighting. I thought Tim did a great job all things considered and JT Money needs to refine his game. I love seeing someone win via an aggressive guard, so I hope to see Tim more in the future.

And in reference to Dana White's talk about someone being out of TUF and UFC, it could easily be hype using selective editing. Dana White probably said, "if he would have done this, he's out of TUF and the UFC" and they edited it to say, "he's out of TUF and the UFC." Who knows I guess, I was curious when strong drama would pop up.

Dave

**Matt W.** · Posted On: 6/12/2008 2:28pm

He actually said ..."Out of the Final and out of the UFC." But that could refer to one of the finalists OR just someone fighting on the undercard of the finale.