7/19/2012 9:46am, #1danielsaunGuest
Hello need some advice/feedback please
I am a new martial artist that was motivated to learn realistic self defense. I am 43, in pretty good shape, but do have some lower back and right knee problems, which prevent me from throwing arts and hard core grappling. I am interested in FMA but frankly I have taken a few hours of class and it seems very complicated requiring a lot of coordination.
So I found a local school that teaches real self defense skills based on silat and mixture of other martial arts.
I am considering leaving the school. One of the instructors is good the other one is a verbally abusive dick. I have been going there for a few months. Some of the other concerns I have about the school is that we can practice full speed because silat is too dangerous and we don't need to because our bodies will speed up naturally in a real attack. That doesn't make sense. I can't see how a fully padded, geared up training partner is going to get hurt unless I am doing a neck break.
I want to do scenario based training and am considering Krav Maga so I checked out a local school and I really liked how they did the drills full speed but with the music blasting and the small thai pads combined with a taller training partner it was almost dangerous. I almost got elbow striked in the face. And gawd KM wanted a 6 month contract for $130 a month and sign up fee $$$$.
Sorry for my rambling, hopefully you can see my confusion, frustration, and trying to figure out my next step.
So can Silat be practiced at full speed by anyone or is my guru saying the same as all gurus?
7/19/2012 10:11am, #2danielsaunGuest
I know I am a noob, but I do have friends that have trained in wrestling/MMA and this is why you don't want to go the ground in a street fight. His friend a blue belt in BJJ engaged this guy on the street in a fight and won, but because he went to ground on concrete he is now going to physical therapy and a chiropractor.
7/19/2012 10:30am, #3
7/19/2012 10:39am, #4danielsaunGuest
I get your point, but disagree. BJJ is sport fighting IMO, not designed for street fighting or SD. The Ring is padded the street isn't and has debris often. I was wrestling and grappling this weekend on the ground with a training partner and got a puncture wound from heavy tree bark coming through my shirt.
7/19/2012 10:45am, #5
BJJ is sport fighting IMO, not designed for street fighting or SD.
The Ring is padded the street isn't and has debris often.
I was wrestling and grappling this weekend on the ground with a training partner and got a puncture wound from heavy tree bark coming through my shirt.
7/19/2012 10:56am, #6
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7/19/2012 11:52am, #7
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There are myriad threads on aliveness, t3h deadly, and RBSD - use the search function and you will be handsomely rewarded.
Anybody that tells you their art can't be practiced full speed without maiming or killing your training partners is completely full of ****. It probably makes it easier to fly low-percentage techniques under your bullshit radar and eliminate the lack of urgency that non-compliant arts develop so well.
The assumption that your body will naturally adapt to "fighting speed" in a real-life situation is ludicrous and downright alarming. You don't get to the majors by pitching underhand, and you certainly don't learn how to fight by playing fucking pattycake.
Approach RBSD with caution, though I guess it depends on what your goals are in taking MA, whether it be for fitness, fun, competition, learning something applicable, or a mixture.
Best of luck
7/19/2012 12:04pm, #8
Kung Fu Kwoon:
Krav Maga school:
I see ZERO street, needles, lava, multiple opponents, or obstacles in the "non-sport" gyms.
No, pretending to be deadly doesn't make your training better for the street.
BJJ is sport fighting IMO, not designed for street fighting or SD. The Ring is padded the street isn't and has debris often. I was wrestling and grappling this weekend on the ground with a training partner and got a puncture wound from heavy tree bark coming through my shirt.
7/19/2012 12:33pm, #9danielsaunGuest
7/19/2012 1:26pm, #10danielsaunGuest
Fake- With all due respect I will just agree to disagree with you. You have way more experience than I due, but I know people that have a lot so I am basing my opinion on what they have told me. I have been able to talk with people like Rory Miller and Peyton Quinn so they are not cyber warriors, they have plenty of real life experience
Street Violence is dynamic maybe BJJ would take the guy out once and next time he falls on a broken bottle under low light conditions and then he is seriously injured who knows. You are right my right cross might miss and hit a concrete wall.