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  1. WestonE123 is offline

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    6/10/2008 8:34pm

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    pinning the arms with shins from mount... worthless?

    After seeing some street fights on youtube involving low level bjj guys whooping some untrained ass, I got the idea that if you can pass your shins on top of your opponents arm when you have them mounted, they just might be fucked.

    I mean you totally take their arms out of the equation and have clear shots to their face. However, after trying this out in class I have had mixed results. When I have my knees high under their armpits an am working for an americana, I have had some sucess because their arms seems to have less leverage ( I should note that it seems to work best when they are tired ). But I have been reversed trying to pin them down more times than I have suceeded.

    Has anyone played around with this position, and what were your experiences? Got any advice for trying to pull this off?


    I will be talking to my instructor about this when he comes back but he has been away training for a fight.
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    6/10/2008 9:57pm


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    I used to do it to my little brother when I was beating him up. But that was before I did BJJ or anything ...
  3. Blue Negation is offline

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    I don't like it because I get bucked forward too easily (yes I've screwed around with this on noobs, sue me). Just take the much easier mounted triangle for similar face-beating potential and the added submission opportunities.
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    6/10/2008 10:17pm


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    I don't think this thread belongs here.

    Short answer: No. It's not as effective as you might think.

    Works on noobs.
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    It will work on noobs who are smaller and weaker than you, but what doesn't.
  6. WestonE123 is offline

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    6/10/2008 10:52pm

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    Hey Blue Negation, thanks for the tip. We haven't learned the triangle from mount yet but I will ask my instructor about it.
  7. vinhthekid is offline

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    6/10/2008 11:56pm


     Style: BJJ/MMA

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    if you haven't learned triangle from mount, you should definitely have put this in gitmo.

    but one shin over is a position i like to use for the ismple fact that i know they'll buck, and give me either a triangle or an armbar.
  8. datdamnmachine is offline
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    6/11/2008 1:47am

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhthekid
    if you haven't learned triangle from mount, you should definitely have put this in gitmo.

    but one shin over is a position i like to use for the ismple fact that i know they'll buck, and give me either a triangle or an armbar.
    Bingo, what I was going to chime in. Also, when you put your shin on their arms, all the weight is resting on your knees. This makes it easy to escape through the back door that is their feet.

    Also, you are able to get to Americana's because the arm is stronger when the elbow is closer to the body instead of away from the body:

    Hey vinhthekid, what SBG do you train out of. I'm here in Bellingham, WA training out of West Coast Fight Club.
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Works better in sidemount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EternalRage
    Works better in sidemount.
    Yeah, I like to use the far side leg (i.e. the leg further from your training partner's head) because it allows me the opportunity to swing around to the other side for the far-side armbar.
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