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  1. GIJoe6186 is offline
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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I read most of this thread.

    Whats the big deal and whats so hard to understand?

    Everything has its place but to say that 98% of the population would be fine with BWE is not true, because you just made that up!

    What about old people who suck at life and withered away into nothing because they're suck? Strength training with weights (small ones) is something that is hard to replicate for these people. They won't even be able to do a girl push-up (I hate old people who dont keep in shape eeeew), but starting with 5lb dumbbell bench presses helps. So does a leg press with 20lbs on it. It's hard to scale down a BWE for certain populations especially with crappy flexibility.

    Now there is also no reason for anyone to compare BWE with powerlifting with olympic lifting with strength training. They all have a different goal, with lots of cross over, but still having specific strengths. BWE can make you strong, but it is limited.

    There is no comparison between 50 pistols and a 500lbs back squat. Forget that they use different muscles and joint actions. A man who does 50 pistols has a somewhat strong leg and very good muscular endurance. There is no way though that his body will be able to support a 500lbs barbell on his back. His back will snap. This load bearing is also helpful for those old farts.

    Just like running and sprinting. They have a bunch of cross over, but to be good at one you must train specifically for it and it will show in your performance in both of them. A strong sprinter will have a slower distance run, because they specialize in sprints.

    One last thing, about "functional" lifting as it applies to MA :

    Deadlift
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    f4n4n, I like you but PLEASE. Read TeM's posts, TRY WHAT HE SUGGESTS, then come back and give us your opinion.

    You're mixing up your terms, not being clear, then claiming we're purposely misreading what you write.
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    After years of long distance running and a few years of MA training...finally starting weight lifting in the last 14 months or so has made me see the best results in terms of strength, power, speed, a rapid decline in injuries, not a single back injury.
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