Functional Training, B/W Exercises, Squats, Pistols, You Say Potatoe, I Say Potatoh.

[Emevas]

El macho got my points before I could.

I'm still curious what the opposite of functional training is though.

[M.C.]

What in your opinion forces the body to use the hip flexors and quadriceps rather than the posterior chain, the position of the other leg or the fact that you use this leg to change balance of your body?

[Teh El Macho]

This thread is made out of posts pulled from here : Anyone use the Total Gym? - No BS Martial Arts

[M.C.]

El macho got my points before I could.

I'm still curious what the opposite of functional training is though.

Building up muscle mass that either reduces your ROM, will slow you down to the point where the gain in power is not productive/helpful any more (i.e. you can strike with lot of power but your are to slow to hit), has a negative effect on your stamina/endurance or you just put up for "show"

[Kentucky Fried Chokin]

So more muscle makes you slow and reduces your ROM?

[M.C.]

So more muscle makes you slow and reduces your ROM?

After a certain point, yes.

[Kentucky Fried Chokin]

After a certain point, yes.

Isn't this point beyond the genetic capabilities of most people?

[Teh El Macho]

ROM doesn't get lost significantly by large muscle mass gains, not unless you don't stretch.

This is a fallacy.

Mass gains won't slow you down unless you disregard your general and sports-specific conditioning.

This is a fallacy.

Perfect counter-examples of extremelly muscular athletes that have "muscles for show" and don't gass out or lack flexibility are Jeff Monson and Rhadi Ferguson (and to a lesser degree the likes of Thiago Alves, Manny Gamburyan and Sean Sherk.)

[at this point I'm about to gouge my own eyes as I'm staring at this overly beaten dead horse]

The only time you get such mass gains is if you train for those gains alone, you train for nothing else (and if eat for that alone, and you supplement your gains with the S-juice for size gains alone and for no other goals than those.)

The only time a person loses ROM significantly due to mass gains is because the gains are unnatural (due to steroids, not due to the exercise) and because the person does not engage in flexibility training.

The only time a person's conditioning suffer due to mass gains is if the gains are unnatural (see above), and if that person does not train for his conditioning. The exercise is not to blame.

There is no such thing as a bodybuilder's exercise. PERIOD!!!!!

This is why I'm telling you to stop using that term. You don't know what it means. You are missusing it. It's a strawman's builder.

Almost the same **** in the core of a bodybuilder's program is the same **** in a powerlifter's training, or in an olympic lifter, or in the strenght training program for gymnasts, or in the off-season weight training program for the average wrestling team. At the core it's the same as in many barbell programs found in crossfit.

If it comes accross so many modalities of training, it is because it's functional. It has direct applicability to normal life as well as for sports-specific goals.

There is no such thing as a bodybuilder's exercise. There is a bodybuilding training methodology, or modality (rep range, rest period, intensity, volume, splits, etc), made of many (but not all) functional exercises.

You are creating a dichotomy where none exists.

[Teh El Macho]

After a certain point, yes.

Someone call Jeff Monson and Rhadi Ferguson.

[Happy Panda]

You're a couple decades behind on fitness knowledge. Have you ever wondered why professional fighters lift weights, not to mention most other professional athletes?