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  1. doninha is offline

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     Style: Capoeira, MMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Pushups for me...
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     Style: JKD and BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Hahaha +rep......oh.......sorry......erm......you weren't joking.
    OK, I realise I'm not a pure bullshidoist because i don't think _ing_unt 100% sux0rs, nor do I think any art does for that matter (at least that I know of) and that almost everything has some usefulness to it. But this is a larger debate.

    My point is simply that Lee saw the limitations or whatever of WT and moved on. I'm not saying he was the uber best unbeatable, but he was a pioneer in many respects that made great contributions to MA on and off film.

    If, like Lee did, we can take some usefulness from WT and use some or more of it and it works, then I think that is great. some others might prefer to simply prefer the MT or Savate or whatever factor of JKD.
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    DO NOT INVOKE THE LEE.


    That is an entirely different discussion and we had it in May.
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    Is that you jacking off on webcam?
    Well, thanks for confirming you aren't a man.
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    Well, thanks for confirming you aren't a man.
    No im a clingon and your turning me on
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcell
    OK, I realise I'm not a pure bullshidoist because i don't think _ing_unt 100% sux0rs, nor do I think any art does for that matter (at least that I know of) and that almost everything has some usefulness to it. But this is a larger debate.
    Wow. Don't build a strawman okay.

    My point is simply that Lee saw the limitations or whatever of WT and moved on. I'm not saying he was the uber best unbeatable, but he was a pioneer in many respects that made great contributions to MA on and off film.

    If, like Lee did, we can take some usefulness from WT and use some or more of it and it works, then I think that is great. some others might prefer to simply prefer the MT or Savate or whatever factor of JKD.
    I'm ignoring this because, it was already handled in the Bruce Lee sucks month thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me
    No im a clingon and your turning me on
    ...and there goes the spelling. Whatever happened to peng? Probably one of the better trolls we have encountered.
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    So if Derek Jones' Wing Chun-based fighting system is a "complete" system, does that mean it's super-effective against wrestlers and the like? What kind of techniques are used in Jones' system to ward off an attacker who is trying to take you to the ground?

    Just curious.
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     Style: JKD and BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Off
    DO NOT INVOKE THE LEE.


    That is an entirely different discussion and we had it in May.
    Ok, fine. I'll put it how my Systema instructor did.

    WT, Karate, TKD, etc. etc. a punch is a punch and a kick is a kick. Beyond that, of course it gets more technical. But when a fist hits your face you know if it is effective or not.

    What makes a good fighter is often beyond the style.
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    Er yes. That Derek Jones evolved a complete effective fighting system based on wing chun.
    so what? it still isn't widely used. therefore wing chun still sucks
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