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  1. Libertad is offline

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    Kr0me,

    You have to understand that most people on this froum dont believe there is a such thing as a "complete effective fighting system". Even less would believe it is "based on wing chun."

    If you have studied this art perhaps you could link a video of you proving your claims?
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    _ing _un with the crap removed + bonus material = modern JKD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me
    There is one martial artist that verifies the validity and effectiveness of genuine kung fu and to put it bluntly the gross ignorance of the view here and that is the late Master Derek Jones.
    It started silly.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcell
    _ing _un with the crap removed + bonus material = modern JKD.
    Hahaha +rep......oh.......sorry......erm......you weren't joking.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me
    This is getting silly. I mean come on fighting multiple opponents is a possibility, but this is getting rediculous. Cant you all just elect one repressentative?

    I nominate ggboxer.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

    "Tom Kagan spins in his grave and the fucking guy isn't even dead yet." -- Snake Plissken

    My Bullshido fan club threads:
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    Tom Kagan can lick my BALLS
    Tom Kagan teaches _ing __un and bigotry?
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    Posted On:
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    I'll bite. What is different about Master Jones' system that makes it complete and effective? What evidence do you have to back up this claim? And photos don't mean much. Video illustrating your point is the only thing that will get any positive response on this forum.

    Perhaps there are some students of his that continued his legacy and are able to effectively utilize _ing _un? Are there any videos of them?
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    This is going to be fun. Just for starters:

    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me
    Er no, never mentioned a debate on which was better or worse. I simply poined out that only one school of Wing Chun was presented. And I was correct in that.
    ONE POST PRIOR you said:

    Lets face it the 'modified' wing chun was purposefully flawed. From a 50/50 weight distribution to practically all the weight on the back leg. That is just one of the many flaws in the system. So yes it sucks and looks pathetic.
    You're really not debating which is better? You're clearly not saying BOTH systems are "flawed," "suck," and "look pathetic."




    And next we have

    Dereks prizefighting history is not a cue to engage in a 'street vs ring' debate is it? Where did that come from?
    Well maybe it came from ONE POST EARLIER where you said

    His huge amount of experience in actual cold blooded streetfights is something that makes him stand out. Again I am not talking about warmblooded tournaments, with rules etc, I am talking about real streetfights.
    Why mention "warmblooded tournaments" and "real streetfights" if not to say that the streetfights are somehow a more valid indicator of his prowess?




    And finally I will say that, while we pretty much all agree that _ing _un sucks, by NO MEANS do we think all Kung Fu sucks. Hopefully You are aware there are other types of Kung Fu that bear no resemblance to _ing _un.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petter
    the success of one fighter wouldn't prove the value of a system.
    Who said it was just the success of ONE fighter? His track record is just good evidence for my point
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    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me
    Who said it was just the success of ONE fighter? His track record is just good evidence for my point
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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Is that you jacking off on webcam?
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