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  1. Tom Kagan is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me
    Opps you did it again.
    As did you.

    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me
    But it seems that you dont even know 'what' I am debating?
    Do you?

    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me
    Er yeah whatever. Are you trying to be witty?
    Are you?
    Last edited by Tom Kagan; 6/05/2008 11:43pm at .
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

    "Tom Kagan spins in his grave and the fucking guy isn't even dead yet." -- Snake Plissken

    My Bullshido fan club threads:
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    Tom Kagan can lick my BALLS
    Tom Kagan teaches _ing __un and bigotry?
    Tom Kagan: Serious discussion here
    Lamokio asks the burning question is Tom Kagan a ***** or just cruising for some
    I'm Dave the gay Kickboxer from Manchester and I have the hots for Tom Kagan
    TOM KAGAN, OPEN ME, THE MKT ARE COMING FOR YOU ! ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO MEET ?
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    World Dominator 'Kagan' in plot to lie about real Kung Fu and Martial Arts
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  2. G-Off is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Coming this June to a forum near you:

    Not Another Chun Thread!
  3. Libertad is offline

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    I thought you were debating that.

    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me

    kung fu in its true essence is a system free from anykind of 'bullshit', but I agree that for the most of what goes under the title of 'wing chun' or 'kung fu' it is a joke so I dont blame people for their views.

    Ok rant over
    If you read this thread carefully no-one has refuted the effectiveness of the _un, however if you read some others...

    Perhaps you could reiterate your argument for me?
  4. kr0me is offline

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    6/05/2008 11:46pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kagan
    As did you.



    Do you?



    Are you?
    Er yes. That Derek Jones evolved a complete effective fighting system based on wing chun.
  5. danniboi07 is offline
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Judo, BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me
    Er yeah whatever. Are you trying to be witty?
    No...actually I'm not. I'm...quite serious. This is quite the moment for me. I've heard a TON of stories regarding the _in_un fights, but never witnessed one. Reading dead threads only goes so far. Here I get to see the real thing in action :nike:
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    Posted On:
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    Apart from the total lack of evidence that this legendary fight, or all the illegal str33t fights, actually happened; apart from any evidence that even if they did, this guy defeated competent opponents rather than drunks, elderly nuns, aikidoka, and _unners -- even apart from all that, the success of one fighter wouldn't prove the value of a system.

    In the unlikely event that you have evidence to convince anyone with at least a double-digit IQ that this master of yours did all you claim he did, and that his opponents could fight their respective ways out of their respective wet paper bags, that would still tell us only that he was a tough guy who could throw down. Sometimes, that's due to training. Sometimes, that's down to being a tough guy who gets in a lot of fights and picks stuff up, regardless of what formal training he may have had on the side.

    But of course, that remains hypothetical, doesn't it?
  7. It is Fake is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me

    Ok rant over

    I know I was responding to a rant.

    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me
    No, no ranting, I have just put forward my opinion.
    Oops my mistake it is your opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me
    But it seems that you dont even know 'what' I am debating?
    Oh wait this is now a debate?

    Oh and *snicker* at look I found a post so it must be true.
    Last edited by It is Fake; 6/05/2008 11:49pm at .
  8. Tom Kagan is offline
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by kr0me
    Er yes. That Derek Jones evolved a complete effective fighting system based on wing chun.


    Well, too bad it died with him then, don't you think?
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

    "Tom Kagan spins in his grave and the fucking guy isn't even dead yet." -- Snake Plissken

    My Bullshido fan club threads:
    Tom Kagan's a big hairy...
    Tom Kagan can lick my BALLS
    Tom Kagan teaches _ing __un and bigotry?
    Tom Kagan: Serious discussion here
    Lamokio asks the burning question is Tom Kagan a ***** or just cruising for some
    I'm Dave the gay Kickboxer from Manchester and I have the hots for Tom Kagan
    TOM KAGAN, OPEN ME, THE MKT ARE COMING FOR YOU ! ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO MEET ?
    ATTN TOM KAGAN
    World Dominator 'Kagan' in plot to lie about real Kung Fu and Martial Arts
    Tom Kagan just gave me my third negative rep in a day
    I am infatuated with Tom Kagan
    Tom Kagan is a fat balding white guy.
  9. kr0me is offline

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    Posted On:
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    This is getting silly. I mean come on fighting multiple opponents is a possibility, but this is getting rediculous. Cant you all just elect one repressentative?
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    You entered the lions' den. Don't bitch if you get eaten.
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