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  1. Asriel is offline
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    I'd like to leave this world like I came into it: Screaming, naked & covered in someone else's blood

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    You can also buy microwaveable bags of veg that normally contain Broccoli, Cauliflower and Carrots. I know nuking it isn't the best option but it's done in 4 minutes
    " The reason elite level MMAists don't fight with aikido is the same reason elite level swimmers don't swim with their lips." - Virus

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    Posted On:
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    When it comes to meat:

    - Some grocery stores will sell things like cooked chicken
    - I have seen frozen microwavable chicken strips that are meant for salads
    - You CAN cook normal meat in the microwave, it just doesn't taste all that good
    - Get a cheap hibachi, BBQ meat on your window still
    - Quality cold-cuts
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGalt
    ... something to get used to the ridiculous elevation here (7,000+ ft)....
    I wonder how much of a contributor this is to your problems. 7K feet really isnt high enough for full blown altitude sickness (I dont think), but I think it could contribute to loss of appetite, poor sleep patterns, fatigue, malaise, etc.

    In the sticky about Tactical Nutrition's product, Rhodiola rosea was mentioned as helpful to counter the effects of high altitude.

    Quote from
    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m..._6/ai_76487131

    "Rhodiola rosea is a popular plant in traditional medical systems in Eastern Europe and Asia with a reputation for stimulating the nervous system, decreasing depression, enhancing work performance, eliminating fatigue, and preventing high altitude sickness. "

    I havent tried Rhodiola rosea yet, but I do plan on trying it out next time Im in La Paz (11,500 ft).

    you probably already know this, but you should be drinking more water at higher altitudes
    Last edited by muddy; 6/05/2008 10:57am at .
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    Posted On:
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    A friend's mother traveled to Chile for an academic research project. While heading up one of the huge hilltop cities (forget which one), the locals told her to have a cup of coffee with a trace amount of cocaine.

    She did...and while she thought she would have a heart attack, she experienced no altitude issues.

    Bottom Line: Do Cocaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satori
    A friend's mother traveled to Chile for an academic research project. While heading up one of the huge hilltop cities (forget which one), the locals told her to have a cup of coffee with a trace amount of cocaine.

    She did...and while she thought she would have a heart attack, she experienced no altitude issues.

    Bottom Line: Do Cocaine
    she probably misunderstood. A common altitude remedy in this part of the world is coca leaf tea. it is also chewed like tobacco. Even though the leaf is used to make cocaine, the natural unprocessed leaf and tea made from it isnt considered a dangerous drug like cocaine. Coca leaf is legal and quite common for this use in South America.
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh El Macho
    ...
    You can do unilateral dumbbell rows, overhead presses, dumbbell swings, etc. You can use that dumbbell to do cossacks:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ahxo9oeras
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    Dr. Courtney Mizuhara-Cheng... the ideal woman.

    Too bad, there seem to be no other videos/pictures of her performing kettlebell excercises available -- otherwise, such videos would finally provide enough motivation for me to buy a kettlebell or two (and what's worse, pay the shipping cost, as none of the local sports stores sell them).

    -EE
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    You could get a bunch of bulk nuts (walnuts, almonds, cashews etc.), some bulk dried fruit (rasins and bannana chips), mix them all up in an airtight container and take a bag full to work. Hell, maybe throw some granola in too. It'd be cheap and easy to store.

    Other ideas are canned food. Canned veggies, beans, fish and more, just get the salt free stuff. Eat it straight from the can or get a little olive oil and seasoning, mix it up and you have meals you dont need to cook. Also, easy to store.

    Cereal is another option. With or without milk if you can keep some in the mini fridge.

    Also, there aint nothing wrong with nuking meat. I think people just like to hate on microwaves. Burgers taste great nuked (throw them in frozen). Chicken taste like **** no mater what (when its not covered in some tasty sauce that is) so oh well.
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    Posted On:
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    nuts, quality coldcuts, fruit, raw vegetables
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    Posted On:
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGalt
    I'm going to come out and say that I have a bit of fat-phobia. I grew up in the South surrounded by fat food and fat people, and I never found it that appealing. As a result I'm more than a little concerned about becoming fat myself. I'm a 26 year old guy, about 6'1/2" tall, and I hover around 175 pounds normally although if I run daily I go down to a low of around 162 and if I eat constantly and lift heavy I can get up to 206.

    At the moment I'm working a job that by its nature is essentially construction 20% of the time, and requires little more than walking around and climbing ladders the other 80%. I mention that just to bring in that the people I work with have the physique of typical construction workers: big belly, but strong. Looking at my coworkers doesn't inspire my appetite.

    I'm quitting in 6 and a half weeks at which point I'll get to go home and see my wife, family and friends for the first time since the end of February. I am trying to stay in reasonable shape for just that long, and I suspect that I can't make much of an improvement in that time frame, although I think if I sat around and ate Haagen-Dazs for six and a half weeks I could probably deteriorate pretty far.

    I work a 14 hour shift during which I eat around 900-1200 calories of food, spread out in small 300 calorie snacks. When I get off work I run for an hour on the elliptical for about 850 calories at my typical pace. I'm usually dead by then so I go to sleep without eating. I get up six hours later and eat around a 1,000 calorie meal although sometimes I eat out and I'm not sure what I'm getting, maybe 1,500. I'm definitely at a calorie deficit, so I don't have to worry about turning into one of my coworkers, but I also know that I can't maintain this indefinitely. I'm starting to see some veins on the side of my head I never saw before and my cheekbones are getting impressive. Actually, I'm kind of a zombie but I have to keep lurching along the same way or I think I'll feel even worse.

    I guess my question is this: knowing that the end is near, do I mellow out for six weeks or do I go for broke and try to recover later? More hypothetically and for my brother who works with me here and isn't quitting, what's the solution when you're only off work ten hours a day for weeks on end? How much sleep can a person trade for exercise or is it better to just be well-rested and watch your gut expand, or try to control things entirely with diet? I'm not exactly surrounded by healthy-looking people, so I don't think anybody has found the solution up here yet. I don't even know what my workout goals are anymore other than try to maintain my current condition and not look like I'm 40 by the time I go home in July.
    Dude I saw your posts over on MAP but it wasn't so apparent how fucking unhealthy you are.

    Dude, WTF are you doin?

    You can have complete control over your body composition with your diet. You don't need to run to keep the pounds off. Just eat right and sleep plenty. It will be way better for your health and well being if you do that. It's fine to be on a calorie deficit - take measurements and weigh yourself and once you get to your target weight (which it sounds like you are), start eating some more food.

    Don't thik that exercing is needed to control your weight. You can do it all with diet and you can do it healthily.
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    Posted On:
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    Thought I'd see what the chi-bunnies thought too. Some of them are fairly reasonable, at least on the exercise front.

    Elevation isn't such a big factor for me but a lot of the guys up here from Tennessee were smote mightily by the change. I just try to maintain the level of performance I had before I came up here, which was good. Running is also something I want to be able to do regardless of whether I lose weight. I lose the ability to run or even climb hills quickly here because of the elevation so I try to do some Kenneth Cooper **** every day just to keep the ability.

    Got a day off today. Had breakfast. Went to the local gym and paid 4.50 at the door. Lifted. Went to the steam room. Puked. Passed out for a few seconds. Curled up in a ball in the shower for 20 minutes under a cold stream. Maybe I am a bit unhealthy actually. Damn.

    I'm about to say **** it though. The counter on my desktop says that I have 40 days, 15 hours, 54 minutes and 14 seconds until I leave Wyoming for good. Maybe I can rebuild myself later. At the very least I have got some good nutrition tips from this thread and I can no longer defend living on Cup Noodle.

    If only I thought to take before and after pics from this job. Of course, at the time I didn't think there'd be an "after."
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