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  1. Rolling Stoned is offline

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     Style: Brazilian Jiu Jitsu

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    I don't know. I can do a 30-minute marathon roll before gassing out, but when I hit focus mits I'm dog tired within minutes. Maybe the body just gets used to certain activities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tri
    well when your running you're conserving energy as opposed to sprinting in which you're exerting.
    You are conserving energy by basically eating your own muscle (and eventually turning catabolic.) There is no such thing as purely conserving energy.

    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tri
    I don't see how boxing and BJJ are different in an aerobic/anaerobic sense.
    They are. They tax your metabolic pathways but in very different ways. You are not required in a stand up art to produce muscular power, continuously, as in wrestling or grappling. This is the greatest different between grappling and pure striking, and the different is great enough to affect how you train to increase your lactic threshold, and you ability to explode while carrying your own weight (by virtue of not being standing) and potentially your opponent, and crap like that.
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     Style: No-Gi BJJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by M-Tri
    well when your running you're conserving energy as opposed to sprinting in which you're exerting. I don't see how boxing and BJJ are different in an aerobic/anaerobic sense.
    I did shitty TKD.

    I did a couple of month's worth of lessons.

    I could last 5 rounds of 3 minutes easy in TKD, going practically full bore most of the time.

    Wrestling kicked my ass. The difference in these two, as TeM pointed out was the way you use your muscles. In wrestling, your muscles needed to endure holding positions, and also to explode moving through positions.

    TKD, you had to be able to explode, relax, and tense, in time with the rhythm of the spar. This meant you used your muscles differently.

    Depending on which your body was used to, it might go easier or rougher on you. I can speculate that someone new to striking arts (doing purely striking) would tire out very quickly, even if they were accomplished grapplers, because their body doesn't know where those sweet "resting spots" are to keep them from using too much energy. Just as when I went into wrestling, I didn't know how or when to rest to keep my stamina good.

    I know this didn't answer your question, or say anything you didn't already know. But now that "you haven't postededed!" message will leave me alone, and I can refer someone to this post at a later date and time.
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