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  1. Yrkoon9 is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauli
    found it. http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showpost.php?p=341873

    it should probably go in the wiki or something, for convenient linking.

    Hahahahahaha!!!

    Oh man that was awesome. I forgot I wrote that. I was on a roll that day. Someone musta fired me up!
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    After reading ^^^^'s article, i realize my earlier post was pretty much exactly waht he said.


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    3moose1 is correct. Sig THAT, you fucker.

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    I went out with a delightful young woman who was on a regimen of pills that made her taste of burned onions.
    That is not conducive to passionate cunnilingus, my friend, let me assure you.
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    I agree with moosey
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
    I don't remember if I'm conflating things here, but I think a forum member had similar experiences with the Torrance Academy. Since that time Rickson, Royce and others left to start their own schools; leaving Rorian.

    As for "certified" gracie black belts, Rorian has actually only promoted a couple of americans to black belt. Thus there are not individuals teaching with an incomplete body of knowledge.
    Didn't Rorion award Ed O'Neill (of "Married... With Children" fame) a GJJ black belt? I think there's a video of the ceremony floating around on YouTube. Or was this a "Gracie Combatives" belt?
  4. pauli is offline

    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens!

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    ed's legit, as i understand it.
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    I hadn't heard about the Black, but I knew he was a brown.
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    Here's some video from O'Neill's black belt ceremony:

    YouTube - al bundy gets black belt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yrkoon9
    Hahahahahaha!!!

    Oh man that was awesome. I forgot I wrote that. I was on a roll that day. Someone musta fired me up!
    You should be honored. I cut out the Jew stuff from my sig to make way for your hilarious analogy of BJJ vs. GJJ. :kiss:
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    Most of what was said is bang on but it's worth noting the exceptions.

    Don't assume that because there name is Gracie they suck, just the same as you shouldn't assume because their name is Gracie they're brilliant.

    While there are alot of problems, especially with Helio's side, there are some top players amongst the Gracies. Rickson and Royler are/were great BJJ players as is Renzo, who despite being from Helio's side is very open and willing to cross train and develop and doesn't try to keep it in the family. There are good guys on Helio's side, just a shame Rorion is a douche. Also Kron is on a tear and it's well worth keeping an eye on what he does at the Mundials now he's at black belt. OK it's very much in the family but he's a product of Torrance and he's a submission machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid Miracleman
    Didn't Rorion award Ed O'Neill (of "Married... With Children" fame) a GJJ black belt? I think there's a video of the ceremony floating around on YouTube. Or was this a "Gracie Combatives" belt?
    Several years ago I read a post on nhbgear which mentioned that Rorion hadn't promoted any american to black belt. Conservatively then, Al would make it still less than half a dozen. Less than half a dozen from one of the longest open (longest open?) bjj schools in the country.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShrekBJJ
    Most of what was said is bang on but it's worth noting the exceptions.

    Don't assume that because there name is Gracie they suck, just the same as you shouldn't assume because their name is Gracie they're brilliant.

    While there are alot of problems, especially with Helio's side, there are some top players amongst the Gracies. Rickson and Royler are/were great BJJ players as is Renzo, who despite being from Helio's side is very open and willing to cross train and develop and doesn't try to keep it in the family. There are good guys on Helio's side, just a shame Rorion is a douche. Also Kron is on a tear and it's well worth keeping an eye on what he does at the Mundials now he's at black belt. OK it's very much in the family but he's a product of Torrance and he's a submission machine.
    Yeah, I wasn't counting Kron or other family members. It is again worth noting that most of the hearsay I've posted is in regards to Rorion. Royler in particular is supposed to be fabulously nice. Renzo too (he's on the other side of the family though).
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    Quote Originally Posted by pauli
    ed's legit, as i understand it.
    That makes Al Bundy even cooler than he was already.
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