Spinning hook kick

**FickleFingerOfFate** · Posted On: 5/23/2008 8:38pm

Originally Posted by The Question

Terrible fucking idea. Seriously. Who the hell does this kind of **** in a match where people are allowed to kick the legs. [

Because the ? knows all the rule sets in every martial art there is, and leg kicks are allowed in all of them. Congratulations, you just came up with the striking equivalent of lava, broken glass and AIDS needles.

The spinning hook kick is some power shot ****. It's some knock a ************ out on the spot ****. It's not that gay ****. It's that SSK ****.

More anti-bjj slurs? For shame!

Seriously, there is no reason to throw a front leg hook kick. **** that.

Yes, there is.
Just because you don't know what it is, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

And I'd bet the two have similar effects.

Kind of like you talking, and you taking a ****?

Yeah, if you're kicking a 50 watt bulb, with your front leg hook kick, that is.

You should be that bright.

**The Question** · Posted On: 5/23/2008 9:21pm

Originally Posted by FickleFingerofFate

Because the ? knows all the rule sets in every martial art there is, and leg kicks are allowed in all of them. Congratulations, you just came up with the striking equivalent of lava, broken glass and AIDS needles.

No, but I do know the rule sets for Muay Thai, which is what I believe the OP is addressing. Here below I have some evidence which might help us to an error free conclusion:

Originally Posted by tharuz

I want to know where, how, and when it is acceptable to pull off a spinning hook kick in muay thai.

Well, the evidence suggests that the OP was in fact talking about Muay Thai. It is my understanding that the Muay Thai rules allow, and some may say even highly encourage leg kicks.

So if we are in fact talking about Muay Thai, which I believe we are, a front leg hook kick is a terrible idea.

Why? Because at that range, you have your rear leg exposed and it will get the **** walloped out of it. And when that happens, you will hit the ground hard.

More anti-bjj slurs? For shame!

Again, you fail to read and comprehend. I've noticed that this is a recurring phenomenon with you. By "that gay ****", I wasn't referring to BJJ, I was referring to silly tippy tap front leg hook kicks that will invariably either land you on your ass, or do absolutely nothing to your opponent.

Yes, there is.
Just because you don't know what it is, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

How familiar are you with Muay Thai rules?

**FickleFingerOfFate** · Posted On: 5/23/2008 9:31pm

Originally Posted by The Question

No, but I do know the rule sets for Muay Thai, which is what I believe the OP is addressing. Here below I have some evidence which might help us to an error free conclusion:

Well, the evidence suggests that the OP was in fact talking about Muay Thai. It is my understanding that the Muay Thai rules allow, and some may say even highly encourage leg kicks.

So if we are in fact talking about Muay Thai, which I believe we are, a front leg hook kick is a terrible idea.

Why? Because at that range, you have your rear leg exposed and it will get the **** walloped out of it. And when that happens, you will hit the ground hard.

Again, you fail to read and comprehend. I've noticed that this is a recurring phenomenon with you. By "that gay ****", I wasn't referring to BJJ, I was referring to silly tippy tap front leg hook kicks that will invariably either land you on your ass, or do absolutely nothing to your opponent.

How familiar are you with Muay Thai rules?

The discussion moved beyond the OP,

obviously you are incapable of doing the same.

Also, if we're going to examine the evidence;

"The Question is really a retarded monkey banging on a keyboard"

Lulz.

**The Question** · Posted On: 5/23/2008 9:34pm

Originally Posted by FickleFingerOfFate

The discussion moved beyond the OP,

obviously you are incapable of doing the same.

It is my understanding that Strikistan is a specialized forum and that staying on topic is highly encouraged, unlike say in YMAS or Trollsido.

Also, if we're going to examine the evidence;

"The Question is really a retarded monkey banging on a keyboard"

Lulz.

So in other words, I'm right, and you're wrong, and you're talking about monkeys? In the striking forum? What the ****?

Tail firmly set between your legs I see. Run along then.

**FickleFingerOfFate** · Posted On: 5/23/2008 9:39pm

Originally Posted by The Question

It is my understanding that Strikistan is a specialized forum and that staying on topic is highly encouraged, unlike say in YMAS or Trollsido.

So in other words, I'm right, and you're wrong, and you're talking about monkeys? In the striking forum? What the ****?

Tail firmly set between your legs I see. Run along then.

The topic is striking,

That is what we were talking about.

The review of your site ranking goes to your credibility on this, and most other subjects.

**G-Off** · Posted On: 5/23/2008 9:48pm

Shut up. The front leg hook kick is generally a bad idea under most striking rules.

To use it effectively, you must:

1. Practice it an obscene amount to get any power, which could be better spent on more frequently applicable techniques.

2. Set it up with multiple front leg side kicks (which are useful, but take more time and practice to master than the equally effective front push kick), or no-switch roundhouse kicks which also lack any sort of power. Only that setup gives you the outcome Kintanon described, with your opponent leaning into it and allowing you to hit the temple with a good amount of force.

3. Cause your opponent to lose their balance/equilibrium, stun them or at least move them back. Causing a knockdown requires hitting the temple, the kick lacks the power to KO unless you hit that magic button.

If you don't do #3, which requires both #1 and #2 having been done previously, you end up sideways to your opponent when the kick is blocked. That gives them a wide open low kick at your hamstrings AND a wide open straight punch to your temple. Front leg hook kick sucks when compared to many other kick techniques under any ruleset other than point sparring.

So stop squabbling.

**M.C.** · Posted On: 5/24/2008 2:26am

Originally Posted by G-Off

no-switch roundhouse kicks which also lack any sort of power.

Is that a front/leading leg roundhouse or what? I've never heard of that "name" before.

Because if it is a front leg roundhouse than you are either weak in kicking or you fail at the technique, or both at the same time.

**Sang** · Posted On: 5/24/2008 3:35am

Use common sense, what do you do before throwing a roundhouse off your forward leg? Switch or step forward or fade.

A no-switch roundhouse would logically be one of those weak arsed kicks where you lean back on your rear leg and throw the lead leg. Unless you are hitting the inner thigh its a completely worthless kick.

I'd definately prefer to use a teep in any situation one of these kicks might be used, its a pity so many people don't know how to use them correctly.

**M.C.** · Posted On: 5/24/2008 8:04am

Originally Posted by Sang

A no-switch roundhouse would logically be one of those weak arsed kicks where you lean back on your rear leg and throw the lead leg. Unless you are hitting the inner thigh its a completely worthless kick.

Okay you are lacking propper technique...

**Sang** · Posted On: 5/24/2008 9:33am

Personally i barely know how to throw it since i don't waste my time using it. I'm a southpaw so i don't even get to use it to hit the inner thigh.

The power in roundhouse kicks is generated by the hips swinging the leg like a baseball bat (as mentioned a thousand times anywhere you want to look), by having the leg forward you just can't generate any real power off that kick.

Feel free to tell me what the proper technique is for a powerful, non-switching lead roundhouse. If you are only drawing on point sparring TKD i don't mean any offense but please don't bother.