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  1. E-Van is offline
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    E-Van Agrees With Upa
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
    I also found it interesting that despite Phrost's catchy title for last week's thread, the judges and Dana White also gave the first round to Rampage's spiky haired guy.

    Sucks to get a 10-8 in a two round fight, dumbass.
    I'll go back and watch the first round again if someone can link me to it, but I'm sure I had a good reason for calling that the way I did.

    Maybe Dana was just placating his biggest star.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost
    I judged a show last night and for some reason was stuck sitting in the red corner. One of the fighters had an armbar and the guy's corner yelled at him to "break it".

    That kind of pissed me off, to be honest.
    Well alot of times it seems that some BJJ guys are used to people tapping in class from "knowing' that they are in the position to get there arm broken, and are not used to applying the pressure needed to actualy get somone to tap in a competition where the person your are competing with will not tap untill he actualy feels the "breaking" pressure.

    As a cornerman it is my job to not only tell my fighter to apply the needed pressure but to also put the fear of god into my fighters oponent. Hearing "BREAK IT!" from his oppenents corner when caught in a arm bar may be that ingrediant needed for him respect the sub and to tap to a good sub before he does actualy get his arm broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phrost
    I judged a show last night and for some reason was stuck sitting in the red corner. One of the fighters had an armbar and the guy's corner yelled at him to "break it".

    That kind of pissed me off, to be honest.

    Guy I train with had a fight 6-7 months ago. Got the guy in a deep knee bar. Had it dead. The guy wouldn't tap. Held it for a momnet and then cranked it till the guy yelped and started tapping furiously. What was Dan supposed to do, not crank and let go of the sub?

    Lutter is another example, if he'd popped quicker he might have actually finished Franklin (or at least gone into the second facing a one armed franklin).
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    I'm of the opinion that if you break someone's limb in a fight, by cranking the **** as hard as you can from the get go, just to secure a win, his friends should be waiting for you outside the arena with guns and knives and ****.
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    If you refuse to tap then you get what you get.
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    Reminds me of that fight where GSP was going for the kimura on Kosh and he couldnt get it becuase Josh was grabing his shorts. So GSP started JERKING that fucking arm. I thought "My god, if GSP gets this Kosh isnt going to get a chance to tap, GSP is just going to CRANK that fucker off"

    fortunetly for Josh GSP never got it.
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    The thing is, with armbars for example, the slightest hesitation when going full out can allow an escape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
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    The thing is, with armbars for example, the slightest hesitation when going full out can allow an escape.
    I completely understand that, but this is, after all, a sport. The fact that a method gives a greater chance of success does not make it right, sportsmanly, or legal.
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    I completely understand that, but this is, after all, a sport. The fact that a method gives a greater chance of success does not make it right, sportsmanly, or legal.
    you might want to remind megumi fuji of that.

    and she might tell you to **** off and learn to tap faster :P
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