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  1. Matt W. is offline
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    Military folks, please help verify/deny this...

    So, I'm a big fan of the show Man v Wild. So, I sometimes frequent the forums for it on Disco. A tangential conversation came up in one of the threads when some kid said the following.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seemingly Nice Kid
    I'm 17 years old but I finished basic S.E.R.E. school (Last of the basic training)just about a week ago. I've decided to become a Survival Instructor for the military (army, navy, and air force) but I'm going to go and specialize in all forms of survival first before I start that career. I'm going to be sent out in about a month to start specializing in water survival. My commander said I have a natural talent for survival and adventuring and that he would like me to teach others since I am the only one who manages to smile while in the forrest all by myself. They decided to give me a one month break to say bye to all my friends and family again since specializing in all forms of survival is going to take a bit of time. (Actually a lot of time. Much longer than normal military training.) But I am excited for it.
    Some supposedly military folks jumped on him for this being impossible when he was so young. Links were posted back and forth, several of which made it seem to me (never been military) that what he was saying was possible, if unlikely. A numbers game ensued in which this kid's detractors attempted to say there was no way he could have completed all that and still be 17 even if he did start.

    Throughout all of this, this kid has answered every question directly and has even offered to provide whatever info the detractors may request in order to prove his claims. Much to my surprise, the detractors TURNED DOWN that offer! IMO, this kid is not acting like a fraud. I'd like to believe him. Unfortunately, I simply don't have enough military knowledge to know if what he is claiming is just unusual, or impossible.

    Here's a few more posts where the kid attempts to explain himself. A link to the thread follows.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kid
    I actually was a straight A student in a private high school but I decided to "graduate early" and join the military. I went through basic training actually quite easily, I'm used to the endurance, and then was moved to the Green Berets. I started that training which was amazingly harder than basic training but I got through and then went to S.E.R.E. My fellow soldiers were almost in tears 1/3 of the way through while I was having the time of my life. I found it remarkably easy. My commander pulled me aside one night and we decided it would be for the best if I specialized in all forms of survival and teach survival to the military, especially the air force. I couldn't turn it down because I loved S.E.R.E. so much. So they sent me home for a month to get some rest and say bye to my family and in about three weeks to a month, I'm going back to training and then to teach survival. I have no idea how long it is going to take to specialize complete survival, as they call it, but I'm very excited.
    Quote Originally Posted by In response to being asked when and where he attended SERE
    I finished level B S.E.R.E. training from North Carolina about six days ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by in response to his timelines being questioned
    Ten months. I went in 3 weeks after I turned 17. Basic training for the military takes 6 months always. BASIC Green Beret training takes three months, then you go to S.E.R.E. which takes one month. Then my Drill Sergeant suggested I advanced in S.E.R.E. and he is going to organize it.
    Quote Originally Posted by his offer to verify
    How can I prove to you I was in the US Army/Green Beret? It's quite annoying with all the arguing and stuff. I'm willing to even give you my service number (drop the letter and a number). If you want dates, I'm sure I can find all of them for you.
    Thread: http://community.discovery.com/eve/f...5661967769/p/1
    Last edited by Matt W.; 5/19/2008 1:46pm at .
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    Posted On:
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    He is full of it for many reasons. Just one is that you don't go to "basic Green Beret Training" right after basic (and you wouldn't call it that if you did). They don't use "service numbers" anymore, just your SSN. "Basic training for the military takes six months always" is BS, it varies from service to service and the "basic" portion does not take six months (it was a mere six weeks when I was in the AF). The reason nobody wants to see his proof is that it's evident that not only is he lying, he's really bad at it. Poser.
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    Posted On:
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    Hmm. Too bad.

    No disrespect to Vorpal, but can a few others chime in on this as well? After enough people respond, I'll post a link to this thread over at the disco forum.
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    Posted On:
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    After Basic training i'm pretty sure he'd have to go Airborne school. ALso i'm almost damn sure there is an age minimum which that kid doesn't meet.
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    Oh, LORD this kid is full of ****. The closest thing he could do is go in as an 18X, and even then when he got done with the training, supposing he DID get in at 17, he'd be something like 19 or 20 after he got done with the training.

    Six MONTH basic training? WTF??? Three month SF training? OMGWTFBBQ?
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    Okay, I just got done reading that thread. Holy galloping dogshit, that's the worst poser I've ever seen. You'd think he'd at least try to get the course lengths straight...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe Noctem
    Oh, LORD this kid is full of ****. The closest thing he could do is go in as an 18X, and even then when he got done with the training, supposing he DID get in at 17, he'd be something like 19 or 20 after he got done with the training.

    Six MONTH basic training? WTF??? Three month SF training? OMGWTFBBQ?
    Last time I checked, the 18X careers had a minimum age requirement of 20 to get in, unless he got a hell of a waiver he did not go to that school and get finished at 17.

    P-O-S-E-R.
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    Alright, I'm linking to this thread over there. I'll, of course, give the standard invite for the "kid" to come defend himself.
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    Posted On:
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    It always kills me when I see teenagers who want to be "Instructors" in the military.

    First off, nearly all instructors need to at least be an NCO.

    Depending on your branch and MOS, an NCO is usually E-4 (the Army is weird in that non Infantry folks become E-4 Specialists that aren't NCOs).

    Of course, a Corporal (E-4) would rare (if ever) get the chance to be an instructor of ANYTHING, so you would typically need to be at least a Sergeant (E-5). Even then...you would need to be a phenomenal Sergeant with a list of accomplishments and decorations.

    An instructor in anything would typically be a Staff NCO (E-6 in the USMC).

    Now...keep in mind that the youngest Sergeant I've ever met received his rank after 4 years. That is pretty fucking good.

    Meaning that 17 year old would need to be at least 21 before anyone would take him seriously as an instructor...and even then "Instructor" positions are so impacted that most slots are filled by Staff NCOs.

    Pfft...a Private as an instructor. Give me a fucking break.
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    Posted On:
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    Stranger and stranger. Having been busted, this dude is now trying a tact that I have never come across before.

    Quote Originally Posted by some nutjob on the internet
    The post here: http://community.discovery.com/eve/f...869#2531943869 and here: http://community.discovery.com/eve/f...769#6801948769 is not true what-so-ever. I am not in the military and have never been to Alaska. But I am a psychologist studying how the normal people, yourselves, respond to how lies and stress effect your brains. This project is called the Red Hand Effect. If you wish to read more about it, you can go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kylebrown

    Anyone who was involved in either of those two topics, I would like to ask you several questions (around 5) about your experience. If you agree, give me a heads up. Even if you were not involved, if you would like to read them and be asked different questions, give me a heads up.

    If you have any questions or concerns, please ask/tell.

    Thank you.

    ~Bird~
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