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  1. gojuJKDdude is offline

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    How much should I lift?

    Im starting a weight lifting program and Im not sure how much weight I should lift with for curls and extensions etc.. I am 5'10 and weigh 200 lbs. My goals are to tone and build muscle. What do you think? I was thinking in the 30lb.-40lb. range for dumbells.
  2. drunkenj is offline

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    depends what exercises you plan on doing, and on what your fitness and strength are like at the moment........ to tone i would suggest taking a weight that you strggle to do 3 sets of 8 - 10 reps with
  3. FingerorMoon? is offline

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    My goals are to tone and build muscle
    They are opposite goals.
    Although if you are a beginner to weight work, and assuming you are carrying a few extra pounds you can achieve some of both.

    We can't tell you what to lift.
    Concentrate on using weight to build muscle.
    Let cardio take care of the extra pounds in order to tone up.
    (muscle built will take up more calaroies to maintain, and can help you drop some extra fat as well...)

    No one can tell you what the perfect rep scheme is for you.

    If you want a quick quide, and haven't lifted much or at all before, go for a weight that means you're struggling on the 12th rep. This will let help the body adjust.

    After a few weeks, find a weight where you struggle (but manage) to get the 8th rep out on whatever you are doing.

    Thats a good place to start.
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    11/24/2003 8:32am


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    Re: How much should I lift?

    Originally posted by gojuJKDdude
    Im starting a weight lifting program and Im not sure how much weight I should lift with for curls and extensions etc.. I am 5'10 and weigh 200 lbs. My goals are to tone and build muscle. What do you think? I was thinking in the 30lb.-40lb. range for dumbells.
    if you want to build mass with cutls, do straight-bar curls
  5. mixicus is offline

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    11/24/2003 11:59am


     

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    FoM has it.

    The weight is gong to vary with the specific exercises. It is hard to give you an idea without knowing/assessing your current physical fitness and any limitations you may have (i.e. injuries).

    If you are a member of a gym, I highly recommend talking with a personal trainer to set-up a program. You can learn specific exercises to meet your goal, maximize your time in the weight rooom, and prevent injury. Maybe 2 sessions to assess and develop a program. In SoCal, many gyms offer the service to members for $30-50/session. Just as is often discussed about the martial art instruction on this site, check the qualifiactions of the trainer. He or she should be certified by a recognized national organization (ie ACE) and have some experience. Preferabily, the trainer should also have a degree in Kineseology or Phys Ed from an acreditted university.
  6. Nid is offline

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    I'd suggest limiting your exposure to personal trainers. Learn lifting technique and mechanics from one (since it's hard to do with trial and error), and that's where I'd end it. After that, do yourself a favor and work-out a program on your own.

    As for the rest of your question, mixicus provided as a complete of an answer as possible at this point, I believe. It's important to get a good handle on the "big picture" when it comes to lifting. Direct arm work really shouldn't be the #1 priority.

    So, anyway, here are a handful of good sites:

    www.hardgainer.com
    www.naturalstrength.com
    www.cyberpump.com (gotta pay for this one, but it's a HUGE resource)
    http://www.technology.niagarac.on.ca.../hitfaq20.html
    www.superslow.com
    www.mikementzer.com
    www.stumptuous.com/weights.html
    www.bodybuilding.com/fun/sisco.htm
    www.i-a-r-t.com
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    Here's a suggested lifting schedule that I kind of observe. You'll have to insert your own weight, reps and sets. It's just a list of exercises.

    Pull Day
    Power Cleans:
    Bent Over Rows:
    Dead Lifts:
    Dumb Bell Rows:
    45° Angle Rows:
    Upright Rows:
    Row machine:
    Pull ups:

    Push Day
    Inclined bench:
    Military press (behind neck):
    Dips:
    Flys:
    Dumb bell military press:
    Nose busters:
    Easy bar French press:
    Tricep machine:

    Leg Day
    Power Cleans
    Squats :
    Dead Lift:
    Squat machine:
    Leg extensions

    Chest & Arm Day
    Bench press:
    Incline press:
    Close grip press:
    Dips:
    Flys:
    Straight bar curls:
    Easy curls:
    Reverse curls:
    Dumb bell curls:
    French Press:
    Nose busters:
    Tricep machine:

    Shoulder & Back Day
    Power Cleans:
    Bent over rows:
    Dead lift:
    Dumb bell rows”
    45 angle rows:
    Upright rows:
    Back extensions:
    Military press:
    Front raises:
    Military dumb bell press:
    Pull ups:
    Last edited by lechuza; 11/24/2003 2:17pm at .
  8. Ronin is offline

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    when do you do MA with a schedule like that ??
    You are also overlapping many exercises, why?
  9. lechuza is offline

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    Ronin69:
    well that's the thing... i don't adhere to it religiously--and since i lift during my lunch break, sometimes i don't have time to do all the exercises. i'm at the point now, where i can lift at lunch time and then train MA later that evening. i train MA on Mon. Wed. Sat. and Sun. On Tues. and Thurs. i try to do some stationary bike during lunch break and do suplemental stuff like abs and push-ups. It's not an exact science, but i'm into it.

    Some days are light and some are heavy.
  10. Justme is offline

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    WOW....training is key....lechuza sound like a pretty intense schedule.
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