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  1. Me101 is offline

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    1) you are being lied to about the history and battlefield effectiveness about your art

    Lineage has been proven. For the record there are more samurai based schools in "ninjutsu" ..ug... i hate saying that word, than "ninja" schools. Anywhere that teaches good taijutsu you will see very good similarities to traditional jujitsu, no smoke, masks or weird weapons from the 16th century.

    2) your masters are not real ninjers
    Correct. The only real "ninjas" left are special ops army.


    3) you are not real ninjers[/quote]
    Do people actually think that they are. Thats scary and yes I have trained in Budo Taijutsu and would hate to be called a "ninja" but have seen some of the quakcs out there that teach things like wilderness stealth etc. Why the hell would I want to stalk someone? Its self defense not assassination.
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    Um dude...what the **** are you smoking?

    The lineage of Togakure-ryu has never been proven.

    Evidence or shut the **** up now.

    Thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerAuslander108
    Um dude...what the **** are you smoking?

    The lineage of Togakure-ryu has never been proven.

    Evidence or shut the **** up now.

    Thank you.
    There are 9 ryus in the bujinkan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bujinkan and 18 ryus in the genbukan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genbukan, most all of them with tracable history.

    Togakure-ryu is only one of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Togakure_Ryu and yes I agree that the history is a little shady for Togakure-ryu since Hatsumi will not all the scroll to be publicly authenticated, but it is only one school in the systems. Infact only 3 out of the 9 schools in Bujinkan are from a ninjutsu lineage, the other 6 are samurai based ryus which means that 2/3 of what is taught has nothing to do with ninjutsu if anything at all. If you want 20th century "ninja" training check out the Navy Seals. Ninjutsu was made to deal with combat and situations that were present hundreds of years ago which mean that unless you randomly run into a castle in the middle of the woods you are pretty much SOL. Thats why Hatsumi changed the name to shed the type of ninja talk that goes on.

    For me "Ninjutsu" or Budo Taijutsu means the ability to use whatever tools you have to accomplish whatever goal you may have. For combat to me it means learning how to adapt to and counter as many styles as possible.
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    Thank you for contributing absolutely nothing new to the conversation and proving absolutely nothing.

    Shut the **** up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Me101
    [Revives this worthless thread]
    Oh my god, did you seriously revive this worthless excuse for a thread. Seriously, what the ****!
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    Then why the **** did you ask if you didnt want an answer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Me101
    Then why the **** did you ask if you didnt want an answer?
    Uhmm no one asked you anything.
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    Posted On:
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    It's called a rhetorical question.

    You responded with the same standard bullshit, the lies, and the brainwashing that we get all the time from koolaid drinkers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Me101
    Then why the **** did you ask if you didnt want an answer?
    It's just not any answer that will do. An informative answer with new information would have been cool. Say a ninja coin with a date of 5000 bc, or a ninja scroll dated from before 1965, or a complete set of ninja cave drawings laquered into some plastic dinner plates.
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    LET THIS THREAD GOOOOOOO.

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