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  1. Deadmeat is offline
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    Renraku waza (Combination Techniques) in Judo

    I originally put this together as a training aid for myself, but I figured it might be of use to some others, or perhaps more knowledgable judokas will add to what i have got so far.

    In judo, one thing that becomes very clear within the first few months of training is that unless you are FAR more skilled than your opponent, landing a single, clean throw against a resisting opponent is very very difficult. even getting Kuzushi (unbalancing your opponent) can be a bit of a struggle.

    Then there's the problem of stiff-arming to overcome.

    The solution to the problem is, of course, combinations. By combining multiple attacks, you can turn your opponent's defensive responses into openings for you to unbalance your opponent, close the gap, and execute the throw.

    For me personally, there are only a few techniques that I feel comfortable with throwing first (i.e. opening with). They are:
    Spoiler:

    De Ashi harai


    O Soto Gari


    Ouchi Gari


    Kouchi Gari


    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi


    and
    Tai Otoshi


    The following section outlines a few combinations using each of the above throws as an opener. Bear in mind that there are varying degrees of execution for the opening throws - you can feint, half enter, or fully attempt the throw, depending on your intention and your opponent's reaction.

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    De Ashi harai
    Spoiler:

    De Ashi Harai → Ashi Guruma→ O Soto Gari
    De Ashi Harai → Tai Otoshi→ O Uchi Gari
    De Ashi Harai → Tai Otoshi → Ko Uchi Gari
    De Ashi Harai → Tai Otoshi → O Soto Gari
    De Ashi Harai → Tai Otoshi → Tomoe Nage
    De Ashi Harai → Tai Otoshi → Yoko Tomoe Nage
    De Ashi Harai → Morote Seoi Nage → Kata Guruma
    De Ashi Harai → Morote Seoi Nage → O Soto Gari
    De Ashi Harai → Morote Seoi Nage → Sukui Nage
    De Ashi Harai → Harai Goshi → O Soto Gari
    De Ashi Harai → Tomoe Nage


    New throws introduced in this section:
    Spoiler:
    Ashi Guruma


    Kata Guruma


    Sukui Nage


    Harai Goshi


    Morote Seoi Nage


    Tomoe Nage


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    O Soto Gari
    Spoiler:

    O Soto Gari → Hiza Guruma→ O Soto Gari
    O Soto Gari → Hiza Guruma→ Ko Soto Gari
    O Soto Gari → Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi → Harai Goshi
    O Soto Gari → Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi → O Soto Gari
    O Soto Gari → Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi → Tai Otoshi
    O Soto Gari → Ko Soto Gari → Tani Otoshi
    O Soto Gari → Harai Goshi → O Soto Gari
    O Soto Gari → Seoi Nage→ Kata Guruma
    O Soto Gari → Seoi Nage → O Soto Gari
    O Soto Gari → Seoi Nage → Sukui Nage


    New throws introduced in this section:
    Spoiler:

    Hiza Guruma


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    Ouchi Gari
    Spoiler:

    O Uchi Gari → Koshi Guruma → O Soto Gari
    O Uchi Gari → Koshi Guruma → O Uchi Gari
    O Uchi Gari →De Ashi Harai → Ashi Guruma
    O Uchi Gari → De Ashi Harai → Tai Otoshi
    O Uchi Gari → De Ashi Harai → Morote Seoi Nage
    O Uchi Gari → De Ashi Harai → Harai Goshi
    O Uchi Gari → Ko Uchi Gari → Uchi Mata
    O Uchi Gari → Ko Uchi Gari → Ko Uchi Makikomi
    O Uchi Gari → Ko Uchi Gari → O Uchi Gari
    O Uchi Gari → Ko Uchi Gari →Seoi Nage
    O Uchi Gari → Ko Uchi Gari →Uki Goshi
    O Uchi Gari → Ko Uchi Makikomi →Ippon Seoi Nage
    O Uchi Gari → Uchi Mata →Tai Otoshi
    O Uchi Gari → Uchi Mata →Ko Uchi Gari
    O Uchi Gari → Uchi Mata →O Uchi Gari


    New throws introduced in this section:
    Spoiler:

    Ippon Seoi Nage


    Ko Uchi Makikomi


    Uchi Mata

    Uki Goshi




    Koshi Guruma


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    Kouchi Gari
    Spoiler:

    Ko Uchi Gari → Uchi Mata → Tai Otoshi
    Ko Uchi Gari → Uchi Mata → Ko Uchi Gari
    Ko Uchi Gari → Uchi Mata → O Uchi Gari
    Ko Uchi Gari → Ko Uchi Makikomi → Ippon Seoi Nage
    Ko Uchi Gari → O Uchi Gari → Koshi Guruma
    Ko Uchi Gari → O Uchi Gari → De Ashi Harai
    Ko Uchi Gari → O Uchi Gari → Ko Uchi Gari
    Ko Uchi Gari → O Uchi Gari → Ko Uchi Makikomi
    Ko Uchi Gari → O Uchi Gari → Uchi Mata
    Ko Uchi Gari → Seoi Nage → Kata Guruma
    Ko Uchi Gari → Seoi Nage → O Soto Gari
    Ko Uchi Gari → Seoi Nage → Sukui Nage
    Ko Uchi Gari → Uki Goshi → Ko Uchi Gari
    Ko Uchi Gari → Uki Goshi → O Uchi Gari


    New throws introduced in this section:
    none
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    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi
    Spoiler:

    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ Tai Otoshi → O Uchi Gari
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ Tai Otoshi → Ko Uchi Gari
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ Tai Otoshi → O Soto Gari
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ Tai Otoshi → Tomoe Nage
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ Tai Otoshi → Yoko Tomoe Nage
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ Harai Goshi → O Soto Gari
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ O Soto Gari → Hiza Guruma
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ O Soto Gari → Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ O Soto Gari → Ko Soto Gari
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ O Soto Gari → Harai Goshi
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ O Soto Gari → Seoi Nage
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ Okuri Ashi Harai → Harai Goshi
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ Okuri Ashi Harai → Tai Otoshi
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ Okuri Ashi Harai → Seoi Otoshi
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ Ippon Seoi Nage → Kata Guruma
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ Ippon Seoi Nage → O Soto Gari
    Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi→ Ippon Seoi Nage → Sukui Nage


    New throws introduced in this section:
    Spoiler:

    Okuri Ashi Harai


    Yoko Tomoe Nage


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    Tai Otoshi
    Spoiler:

    Tai Otoshi → O Uchi Gari → Koshi Guruma
    Tai Otoshi → O Uchi Gari → De Ashi Harai
    Tai Otoshi → O Uchi Gari → Ko Uchi Gari
    Tai Otoshi → O Uchi Gari →Ko Uchi Makikomi
    Tai Otoshi → O Uchi Gari →Uchi Mata
    Tai Otoshi → Ko Uchi Gari →Uchi Mata
    Tai Otoshi → Ko Uchi Gari → Ko Uchi Makikomi
    Tai Otoshi → Ko Uchi Gari → O Uchi Gari
    Tai Otoshi → Ko Uchi Gari → Seoi Nage
    Tai Otoshi → Ko Uchi Gari → Uki Goshi
    Tai Otoshi → O Soto Gari → Hiza Guruma
    Tai Otoshi → O Soto Gari → Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi
    Tai Otoshi → O Soto Gari → Ko Soto Gari
    Tai Otoshi → O Soto Gari → Harai Goshi
    Tai Otoshi → O Soto Gari → Seoi Nage
    Tai Otoshi → Tomoe Nage
    Tai Otoshi → Yoko Tomoe Nage



    New throws introduced in this section:
    None.

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    Ok, so there you have it. A list of combinations starting from techniques that are comparatively easy to open with against a resisting opponent. I wouldn't expect for you to commit the whole lot to memory, but there are some ideas you can build on. Find a combination that looks interesting to you, and try it. Modify it, whatever you want.

    Feel free to add to my list, or suggest changes/improvements. I hope it's of some use to someone out there. It's definitely helped me.
    Last edited by Deadmeat; 5/14/2008 1:10am at . Reason: epic post was difficult to navigate + error correction
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadmeat
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    That Yoko Tomoe Nage at the end looks more like Sumi Gaeshi.
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    Why would you quote a post that takes 3 days to scroll through in order to make an inane comment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiNnyX4
    That Yoko Tomoe Nage at the end looks more like Sumi Gaeshi.

    That's because it is Sumi Gaeshi.
    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

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    woops. Ok replaced the picture. My bad.

    That was quite a mission to post. I may reformat the original post with spoilers to make it easier on the eye.

    Anyway, disregarding the ugliness of the post, and the inaccurate picture of Yoko Tomoe nage, what combinations do you guys use? I listed those ones because they all open with throws that I feel I can at least try against a resisting opponent - I like Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi and De Ashi harai particularly because opportunities seem to present themselves pretty readily in Randori.
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    Tsuri Komi to Tai Otoshi/Yama Arashi
    O Soto to O Uchi
    Hiza to Uchimata

    I don't try to master a bunch of different throws or combinations. I stick with my strongest throws.
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    That's good advice. It echoes what my instructors said pretty much word for word.

    The purpose of what I posted isn't to say anyone should try all those combinations, but rather an attempt to map out some possibilities, and then pick up the one or two combos that work for me.

    In reality, I tend to try maybe one or two combinations from each of my favorite openers, and it's generally the same ones every time.

    I hoped that if I wrote it all down, I could come back and look at it later, and maybe see something glaringly obvious that I'd overlooked earlier, I guess.
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    Kouchi gari to seio nage to kata guruma
    Kouchi gari to leg pick to ouchi gari
    Ouchi gari to Uchi mata to leg pick
    Osoto gari to Tani Otoshi
    Osoto gari to Harai Goshi or Ashi guruma

    those are what I use... poorly. Your list is very nicely done and I'm definitely going to think about trying out a new combination from it. I'm new enough at Judo that I'm still searching for combos that best fit me. Thanks!
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    Combinations are definitely the way forward, but I do often struggle with them in the heat of randori or competition.
    I like to stick with a few things I know I can do well too:
    Ko Uchi to Uchimata
    Sasae to Uchimata, Harai Goshi or Ippon Seionage

    Thats pretty dull looking. I need to be more creative.
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