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  1. DKJr is offline
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    :spanky: No! Bad Rickson! Making claims you can't back up. No! BAD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassius
    The BJJ world collapses into chaos as Vince publishes our most carefully guarded secret: The Gracie family is a collection of shameless self-promoters, prone to ridiculous outbursts, and generally full of it.

    Except for Renzo Gracie, who is really very nice.
    From what I heard, Carlson Jr. is a pretty nice guy too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaverickZ
    From what I heard, Carlson Jr. is a pretty nice guy too.
    Relson is also very cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassius
    In terms of pure gi BJJ, Rickson is still ridiculously good. If Jacare publicly admits that Rickson schooled him when they rolled, that's good enough testimony for me.
    I'll believe that when I see it in a tourney. I mean, him schooling people when they roll is great and all, but part of that has to be them not being dicks and pushing him as hard as they can. I mean, I know my instructors are better than I am, but if I want, I can just be a dick and use power moves.
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    A 50 year old 185 pound Rickson Gracie vs Fedor... hmm...I wonder what the outcome would be?
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    Why, Fedor loses of course. Right after Rickson gives him an evil eye Fedor is reduced to a fetal-do pudding and is just glad that Rickson only chokes him out.
    Curiosity killed the cat. But damn it had a blast.
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     Style: Judo/Boxing

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    Rickson by armbar.
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    Rickson by double armbar.
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    Heres how it will go down. YouTube - 300 - This is madness. This is Sparta.

    So that would be Fedor by push kick into the pit of doom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassius
    In terms of pure gi BJJ, Rickson is still ridiculously good. If Jacare publicly admits that Rickson schooled him when they rolled, that's good enough testimony for me.

    Rickson was in talks to fight Ken Shamrock a year or two ago, but nothing happened.
    Paulo Filho says the same, supposedly in the context of mma sparring. That's not good enough testimony for me though. There are guys that are gym stars that suck in competition (that's the route I'm certainly headed down) and the reality is that mma today is a far cry from where it was even 5 years ago, let alone when Rickson last fought. There simply is no way (or reason) to assess where Rickson stands today. He, like many Gracies, talks the game but hasn't walked it in over a decade. Royler (well, not since he got Genki'ed) and Renzo, and to a lesser and more pathetic degree Royce, still fight and are thus still worth talking about.

    Rickson is a High School star quarterback who sits on the couch talking about how great he would have been in the NFL who gives his wife a black eye when she doesn't get him a beer fast enough.
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