Top Ten Karate Fighters in MMA

**Sakmongkol** · Posted On: 5/12/2008 1:28pm

Originally Posted by ray jackson

Anderson silva's style reflects a mixture western boxing and muay thai, with a little TKD flare. He doesn't stand like a thai boxer, he doesn't square up like a thai boxer. Surely you can see the difference.

He has the same square stance as a thai boxer and if your suggesting if someone bends at the waist = western boxing your a retard and if your saying someone has to do TKD to have flair then you are even more so.

**franz_grinder** · Posted On: 5/12/2008 1:30pm

Originally Posted by Sakmongkol

I agree. Point system encourages shin checks and moving forward as the agressor in MT. I misunderstood what you were saying.

I would go so far as MT'er's even shin check harder than a Karateka. They almost drive through the shin check quite often leading to those inside elbows and knees.

Of course their are phenoms in every sport that simply don't bother with the norm.

**Sakmongkol** · Posted On: 5/12/2008 1:31pm

Originally Posted by franz_grinder

I would go so far as MT'er's even shin check harder than a Karateka. They almost drive through the shin check.

What?

**Goju - Joe** · Posted On: 5/12/2008 1:33pm

Originally Posted by Draven

I suggest you do the same because it looks like the point went over your head. My post was not aimed at you, it was aimed at franz_grinder.

His arguement is that Chuck Liddell has to be fighting like a Karate fighter because of the way he moves backwards and punches from weird angles. My response is that there are many kickboxers who fight that way as well. Its not something thats only done by guys with Karate background. It can just as well have come from his kickboxing background.

I understand that but your response to his response to me was simillar to what sakmongol already said to which I answered.

My head hurts....

**franz_grinder** · Posted On: 5/12/2008 1:33pm

Originally Posted by Sakmongkol

What?

When I made the move from Kyokushin to MT I had to try not to angle a shin-check to deflect. My Kru would keep yelling at me to push through the check that way I can get inside and keep my pace moving forward. Momentum is a big deal and it really helped me get throught my amatuer muay thai fights.

**ray jackson** · Posted On: 5/12/2008 1:44pm

Originally Posted by Sakmongkol

He has the same square stance as a thai boxer and if your suggesting if someone bends at the waist = western boxing your a retard and if your saying someone has to do TKD to have flair then you are even more so.

No i didn't say you have to have TKD to have flair in your style. I said that he has some TKD influenced flair in his stand up, ie, doubl kicks, spinning back kicks, jumping kicks. Are these techniques unique to TKD? No, but TKD more commonly utilizes these techniques, and it is a style he's studied in the past.

The way anderson silva hold his hands more like a boxer, and has his hips less squared than most thai boxers. I'm not saying that thai boxers don't ever use certain aspects of other styles, I am saying that these said differences are more commonly seen in styles other than Muay Thai. It is clear that Anderson Silva utlizes techniques that he picked up from his individual study of Boxing and of TKD and added them to his Muay Thai core. I don't understand why this is so hard to comprehend.

**Goju - Joe** · Posted On: 5/12/2008 1:49pm

Here's some goju irikumi (continous sparring)

YouTube - IOGKF Shurenkai Tokyo / 1st-2nd Dan Irikumi

YouTube - Goju-Ryu Irikumi #2

For better or worse you can sum the flow as - atttack, attack, attack, retreat ,retreat ,retreat, atttack, attack, attack, retreat ,retreat ,retreat.

There's are pro's and cons to this, especially for MMA, but there is also an emphasis on a certain evasivness that can be benefitial in MMA, which I see in GSP, and Machida and some what in Lidell. Is it unique to Karate? No but this style of evasiveness is more prevelant in Karate than in most Muay Thai.

Machida does it the best of all because he has great ground skill to go with it. What Machida IMO lacks is knowing when to switch from evasiveness to full blown bludgeoning attack.

**Shuma-Gorath** · Posted On: 5/12/2008 2:42pm

This list needs more Antonio Carvalho.

Originally Posted by Draven

I think thats a ridiculous list.

No one cares what you think.

**Vieux Normand** · Posted On: 5/12/2008 2:47pm

Originally Posted by Shuma-Gorath

No one cares what you think.

No, but sometimes it's almost worth setting up a betting pool to find who's fastest at beginning with "I think..." to proving beyond doubt that they don't...

***Omega Supreme*** · Posted On: 5/12/2008 3:58pm

Originally Posted by Draven

Thats a great input by you, real mature. Go **** yourself.

Ah irony, you've got to love it.

*edit. Since we're on the subject of imature, realize I'll be at the mega and you can attempt to make me **** myself.