Bart Vale Black Belt Full Contact Fighter Of The Year 2006

**Scott Larson** · Posted On: 5/10/2008 2:54pm

How many lbs. of flab is there usually?

**Roidie McDouchebag** · Posted On: 5/11/2008 12:37am

15-25 lbs, IMO. My instructor says he was 275 when he met him.

**Kid Dynamite** · Posted On: 5/14/2008 10:46pm

My Kenpo instructor Thomas Dunne who passed away knew Bart Vale who also did kenpo. They had competing Dojos here in Miami.

Well anywayd, I heard about Bart Vale fighting in something called shootfighing back in the early 90's. I asked my instuctor about Vale and Mr. Dunne kind of laughed and said that I would be more entertained watching WWF wrestling. He said that shootfighting was all fixed.

I read somewhere that Bart Vale goes around touting his shootfighting techniques the ultimate martial art and how he beat Shamrock back in the day.

What a fraud.

**Roidie McDouchebag** · Posted On: 5/15/2008 7:29am

^^^
True

The techniques ARE real, and he did plenty of real sparring, but only a few real fights. Aside from PKA or whatever the **** he was doing before Fujiwara recruited him.

**Kid Dynamite** · Posted On: 5/15/2008 9:01am

I know Bart was full contact point fighter.

After reading this thread I actually did some research and I found that the connection between my instructor Thomas Dunne and Bart Vale was Dunne was his instructor for a while. They had a full contact karate team call "The Miami Vice". I read they beat out the number one team at the time.

**3moose1** · Posted On: 5/15/2008 10:11am

Originally Posted by Kid Dynamite

I know Bart was full contact point fighter.

oxymorons, ftw?

**Odacon** · Posted On: 5/15/2008 11:36am

Originally Posted by 3moose1

oxymorons, ftw?

I think he means American Karate aka Kickboxing.

**Kid Dynamite** · Posted On: 5/15/2008 5:13pm

Im sorry, it says full contact fighting team.

**sdss9462** · Posted On: 5/18/2008 12:34am

The stuff in the first vid is shoot style pro wrestling. Guys like Soranaka, and Vale, like Shamrock, Funaki, Takada, Tamura, and even Maeda and Sayama, among several others, certainly deserve credit for their parts in creating shoot style pro wrestling, which did sort of bridge the gap between pro wrestling and true fighting. What Inoki, Fujinami, Fujiwara, Soranaka, and Maeda learned from Karl Gotch was legitimate, but it's primitive compared to what's taught today because of what is now known to work in real fights.