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  1. GoldenJonas is offline

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    Posted On:
    5/02/2008 9:02am

    Join us... or die
     Style: BJJ

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    RATING AND YOU - READ THIS BEFORE POSTING YOUR REVIEW

    Dear Aggrieved School Member/Owner:

    Please understand that our reviewing system is a) meant to work off factual criteria and b) geared toward the needs of those looking for alive, full contact training. Understand as well that our review system is not Olympic scoring and a 5-9 is an average to above average rating, not an insult. Finally, please also consider that our rating system tries to do the difficult job of creating a range that can encompass every school.

    So far the only other review to net several deserved "10s" is a member's review of the American Top Team training facility in Coconut Creek, Florida. This complex is a 10000+ square foot mecca for aspiring pro fighters with a full weight yard, a matted instruction surface, rings, cages, full lockers, parking, etc. Further, that school has grappling and BJJ instructors who are multi-time world champions, Muay Thai, MMA and Boxing instructors who hold titles in many different organizations or have been members of their respective US Olympic team at one time or another. That's what your school is rated against and should be compared to when you think your striking or grappling instruction is a 10.

    The only other tens I would anticipate handing out would be too say, an OTC facility or a large college's boxing or wrestling program - a 'ten' implies a facility that is top of the line in every, single way. Most people don't want to pay for a 10, and most people aren't dedicated to training in the way 10s require of their students. A rating less then 10 is not damning, it is normal.

    Our system is meant to run from 1-2 (don't train here for this category, i.e., don't go to a exclusively BJJ school if you want to learn good striking skills) to 9-10 (train here for going pro in full contact) - your neighborhood karate center getting 4-7s shows the system to be functioning. People who are your chosen market - mothers with children, ordinary community members who need/want exercise and some self defense - are not going to consider your school if your own rating indicates it is geared toward professional fighters. Likewise if people looking for what a 10 offers in a school come to visit yours, will they find what they want, or will they waste their time and your own?

    If your school gets a review you don't agree with, you aren't going to counter it by 1) pointlessly arguing with the reviewer about his motivation or 2) saying "ALL LIES COME SEE" - if you don't teach full contact, tell why. If you do something out of tradition or respect for your lineage, explain and contextualize it. If your view of the school and particular aspect of training within your school differs explain why you view differs and ensure your rating is consistent with these guidelines. Remember, a low number rating is simply a classification of the curriculum taught, NOT a derogatory statement about your school.

    Use the criticism as an opportunity to explain the value you place on things like tradition, instead. If you feel a reviewer omitted or missed something, post that information along with your own, honest, review instead of giving yourself "high" scores which may not actually reflect your facility or curriculum and may actually misinform a consumer who is considering going to your school.

    I hope this explanation helps you understand why you received the rating you did and motivates you to revise your ratings honestly, in keeping with our guidelines.


    Aliveness:

    1: No sparring/contact, performance demonstration/forms only.
    2-3: Compliant partner drills, board breaking, point sparring
    4-5: Light contact continuous sparring (negligible pain/risk).
    6-7: Medium contact with excessive safety gear.
    8-9: Hard contact with reasonable safety gear and/or limited to one range of fighting (standup/grappling).
    10: Regular (monthly or less) skill testing via full contact, full range fighting, minimum safety equipment.

    Equipment:

    1: What equipment?
    2-4: Bring your own.
    5: Basic relevant essentials, may be heavily used.
    6-7: Respectable equipment, somewhat worn.
    8-9: Excellent, new condition, latest gear.
    10: Superior equipment (full ring/cage, etc)

    Gym Size:

    1: Bedroom in your parents' house.
    2: We train in the garage.
    3: We train in the basement.
    4: But it's a freakin' big basement.
    5: We train at the park
    6: Actual dedicated commercial space, somewhat small but functional.
    7: +2
    8: Plenty of room to roll/spar without tripping over people
    9: 5,000-10,000 sq ft.
    10: 10,000 sq ft.

    Instructor/Student Ratio:


    1: I am my own instructor.
    2: I've met the lead instructor, once.
    3: I see my lead instructor every class, through the window to his office.
    4-5: Instructor opens class, senior students complete it.
    6-7: large class but instructor is accessible and oversees most classes.
    8-9: Smaller classes, instructor or highly qualified (master level) assistant instructors in small groups.
    10: Highly personal attention from top instructors.

    Atmosphere/Attitude:


    1-5: Everyone's a douchebag/tough guy/pansy to corresponding degrees and/or drama.
    6-7: Fairly impersonal, various cliques or noticeable drama.
    8-10: Open, supportive but challenging, bizarro hippy ass-beating love fest.

    Striking Instruction:

    1-3: No striking.
    4-5: Striking for punching/kicking only and/or limited purposes (demonstration, highly restrictive sport).
    6-7: Comprehensive striking (all ranges) or superior single range striking with success in local/regional competition or practical application.
    8-9: Pressure-tested, full range striking and proven success in limited restriction, top level competitions or high level self defense situations.
    10: Superior excellence including A-level competitors/instructors

    Grappling Instruction:


    1-3: No grappling. Anti-grappling.
    4-5: Limited single sub-range (standing, clinch, ground only).
    6-7: Comprehensive grappling with success in local/regional competition or practical application (LEO, military).
    8-9: Pressure-tested, full range grappling and proven success in limited restriction, top level competitions or high level self defense situations.
    10: Superior excellence including A-level competitors/instructors

    Weapons:

    1: No contact, performance demonstration/forms only.
    2-3: Compliant partner drills and preset encounters
    4-5: Light continuous alive sparring (negligible pain/risk).
    6-7: Medium contact with excessive safety gear. (some pain and/or wide variety of realistic weapons)
    8: Hard contact with reasonable safety gear (pain and/or some blood)
    9: 8 but with various weapons. Tournament winners, proven success in limited restriction, top level competitions or high level self defense situations.
    10: Superior excellence. Regular (quarterly or less) skill testing via full contact, full range fighting, minimum safety equipment. (Pain, Blood, bone breaking and/or death)
  2. SenseiTucker is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/21/2009 3:44pm

    Bullshido Newbie
     Style: Shohei~Ryu Karate

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    Not like the videos but serves the needed purpose

    Neither My school or my head instructors school looks like the videos but our training ways serve their purpose. We do have a lot of iron body conditioning drills and exercises.

    Hold kid classes starting at 5 yrs old. In class free sparring, point fighting, once a week and have special sparring class for those 14 yrs and older with green belt or higher. Medium to hard contact sparring with minimal gear, full speed timed matches without points in my other sparring class. Other class is for sparring only with technique drills. Most of us only use hand pads/ punches. Other padding can be worn at any time. During tournament times we use full gear. We do bag work on a heavy bag, 2 bag stands, speed bag, and headache bag. Along with our iron-body conditioning, we use the makiwara, a single-arm modified wooden dummy, "The Knot" ( a very old huge mesquite knot ), iron hammers, kettle bells, tornado ball, and the rock pot. We have several different board breaking practices. We have 2 man bunkai and kumite drills, full speed with contact brown belt and above. We use mats for different training exercises because we do use toss throws and leg catch throws. Dont have any grappling or ground work classes but hope to add them in the future with a judo or JJ class if an instructor can be found close in my area. I hold a weapons class on Saturdays and hold a Tournament class on Friday. My dojo is small and practical but practice outside with a bigger class, depending on the weather. Check out my web page to see pictures and other info. http://SenseiTucker.googlepages.com
    Last edited by SenseiTucker; 1/24/2009 11:49pm at . Reason: Things done in my dojo.
  3. GoldenJonas is offline

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    Posted On:
    1/22/2009 9:49am

    Join us... or die
     Style: BJJ

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    Ummmm, what? What school are you talking about? Have you posted a formal review thread for your school?
  4. It is Fake is offline
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    Posted On:
    1/22/2009 9:56am

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