Thread: Escaping side mount help
4/30/2008 1:41pm, #1
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- Jan 2008
Escaping side mount help
Besides finding myself on my back most of the class...I am noticing alot of guys, especially the blues like to work from sidemount more than full.
Because I am wide and have a big rib cage I tend to want them full. I can either upa them off or at least keep them off balance to get anything effective going. But when someone is side on me...forget it.
Normally I try and get one arm against their neck and the other down by their legs/hips. I am not skilled enough to swing a leg "in" so I upa and try to work the leg in little by little...upa...leg...upa...leg...I get nowhere.
I am still a noob and from what I hear it is a tough spot to escape but the only "escape" I have learned is the upa/try and work the leg through.
Anything else I could try? I am constantly on my back, I might as well learn to defend from there...
4/30/2008 2:27pm, #2
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- Apr 2006
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I've been working from under side mount a lot lately, and one thing I try to do, is take my outside arm, and underhook their nearest arm. I just try and bury it there under their armpit, real tight, so they can't get the underhook on me. What this does, is it forces me to turn into them a bit, thus letting a little pressure off my chest so I can breath easier. You have to be mindful of this though, b/c they may try to attack that arm.
Another thing is, it depends on how they are pinning you. If they are really squashing your chest, then you have to defend a little differently.
Always try to turn into them, though. You never want to be flat on your back.
4/30/2008 2:37pm, #3
Aaargh. Basic grappling questions belong in Guantanamo Bay, not in DHS. Please read the individual forum descriptions before posting in them.
To answer your question, shrimping drills and the elbow escape. As a grappling beginner, they are your new best friends. Why? Because that's what you see people using as white belts in dimestore tourneys as well as world class black belts at the Mundials.
4/30/2008 2:59pm, #4
Don't be flat on your back.
That's the most important thing about beingundersidecontrol.
4/30/2008 3:23pm, #5
The solution to improving your escapes from under side is comprised of two parts:
1) Ask your instructor to go over reguarding, reversals and turning on knees.
2) Start every round of free rolling that starts on the ground with your opponent having side
a)Make sure you do this with those better, the same and worse than you.
Stick with "2" consistently for 6 weeks, revisit this thread at that time with the reply:
"Thanks, problem solved"
4/30/2008 3:28pm, #6Originally Posted by BudoMonkey
Even Gitmo has a purpose. Contribute or get the **** out.
That's just my opinion.Shut the hell up and train.
4/30/2008 3:29pm, #7Originally Posted by UpaLumpaShut the hell up and train.
5/01/2008 10:38am, #8
Don't forget shrimp -> scissor -> single leg.
Also WTF, I was trying to search for this technique and found the new version of the Zombie shoot. The belly flop side mount. Doesn't anyone else's coach tell them to make the guy look away?
5/02/2008 8:30am, #9
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Thanks guys, I tried some of the stuff you guys mentioned. It made a world of difference. I didn't do anything successfully but it did help keep my opponent working harder.
5/02/2008 8:37am, #10
One thing that's worth mentioning is that you shouldn't be skittish about multiple shrimps. It seems like a lot of people gear up for one big shrimp and then look up to heaven with wide eyes when it doesn't clear them completely. Shrimp. Reload. Repeat until you've created enough space.