Lyoto vs Tito UFC 84

**pauli** · Posted On: 4/25/2008 12:49pm

tito's going to give himself the finger at some point. i'm sure of it.

**Draven** · Posted On: 4/25/2008 3:03pm

Machida by TKO

Wanderlei by KO

BJ by TKO

**maofas** · Posted On: 4/25/2008 3:15pm

Machida of course! Whether he grinds out a decision or knocks him silly depends on how many counterpunches Ortiz plans on running into.

**new2bjj** · Posted On: 4/25/2008 3:33pm

You know, it's sad. I remember when Tito was like a fucking god, now he's like a guy with a kick me sign on his back. Of course, all the showboating and nasty t-shirts didn't help, did it? Oh well, always remember, be nice on the way up, so everyone else is nice on the way DOWN.

**Kentucky Fried Chokin** · Posted On: 4/25/2008 4:18pm

In a fight between Tito and himself, Tito would still lose and he would still come up with excuses for why he lost.

**UpaLumpa** · Posted On: 4/25/2008 5:36pm

The biggest problem for Tito will be the fact that he hasn't fought in so long. He does still however have the tools. He beat Rashad despite legitimate back problems and actually did surprisingly well against Liddell when Liddell was at his peak.

I think Tito will shock a lot of hardcore fans that are too willing to write him off.

**Draven** · Posted On: 4/25/2008 5:38pm

Originally Posted by UpaLumpa

He beat Rashad despite legitimate back problems and actually did surprisingly well against Liddell when Liddell was at his peak.

He drew against Rashad and got KTFO against Liddell. You might want to rethink your post.

**UpaLumpa** · Posted On: 4/25/2008 5:42pm

He won the fight except for a point deduction, and won it pretty clearly. While he got ko'd by Liddell it was a decent performance.

Watching the fights helps a little. Sherdog only gives a limited amount of info.

**Draven** · Posted On: 4/25/2008 5:52pm

Originally Posted by UpaLumpa

He won the fight except for a point deduction, and won it pretty clearly. While he got ko'd by Liddell it was a decent performance.

Watching the fights helps a little. Sherdog only gives a limited amount of info.

I have indeed seen the fights. And the fact is the fight against Rashad was a draw, he rightly got deducted a point for fence grabbing which made fight a tie. So like, he did not win. Get it? And the second Chuck fight may not have been as much of a whooping as the first one, but he did get his ass beat. The fact that you mention one draw and one loss as Tito´s greatest achievements for the last few years is pretty telling, isn´t it?

**E-Van** · Posted On: 4/25/2008 5:52pm

I think Tito has to much pressure on 'his last fight in the ufc' and Machida is going to get the decision after strategicly banging with him.

BJ Pen is beutifull to watch. For a round or two. Sherk is gona storm roll him. Watch Sherk push Penn to the limit after two or three rounds then pull a stoppage via g&p

Wandy is going to try to man handle jardine. I think Jardine has such beutifull set ups. His hands are prolly third to Lidell and the Spider. I think Jardine is going to get the judges on this one