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  1. Pandinha is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pandinha
    Don't be a dick vince
    Interesting...nowhere in that sentence do I see a denial of the refund thing...
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    i keep tryin to spar, but nothin happens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyCache
    Starnes is really, really good raw material.
    he's been pretty raw for a pretty long time at this point.
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    Not really. He looked fine in his last couple fights.
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyCache
    Not really. He looked fine in his last couple fights.
    I'm assuming you are excluding the Quarry fight from "last couple of fights."
    Do you mean the fight where Belcher split his head open after dancing around with his hands down daring Starnes to hit him, or the one where he almost got submitted from CHRIS LEBEN'S RUBBER GUARD. Let me repeat: He Almost Got Submitted. By Chris Leben. With the Rubber Guard. (Okay, perhaps I slightly exaggerate on the Leben thing. But Sensei Rogan swore a submission would be forthcoming as soon as Leben went from New York to Chill Dog...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Tortelli
    Anthony, you can tell us the real reason. Starnes gets to stay because he has already paid for his ATT Level 1 Certification, and Top Team doesn't want to refund his $6000, isn't that right?
    Low man really low.




































    I did laugh my ass off. You know what is funny Joe S. doesn't look so bad. At least he begged off before the **** ended up like this.

    Yeah, he screwed up someone elses chance on TUF. Still, I'd rather see a guy walk off a show than, run backwards with a foot injury. Oh and then preted it was about the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Tortelli
    I'm assuming you are excluding the Quarry fight from "last couple of fights."
    Do you mean the fight where Belcher split his head open after dancing around with his hands down daring Starnes to hit him, or the one where he almost got submitted from CHRIS LEBEN'S RUBBER GUARD. Let me repeat: He Almost Got Submitted. By Chris Leben. With the Rubber Guard. (Okay, perhaps I slightly exaggerate on the Leben thing. But Sensei Rogan swore a submission would be forthcoming as soon as Leben went from New York to Chill Dog...)
    Yeah, he was showing interesting improvement in his hands in the Belcher fight, he just stuck to it past the point where he should have gone to ground, and almost getting submitted by Chris Leben is not some horrible thing. He gave those two game fights, he fought well on TUF, I don't see his SKILL as an issue. I doubt his heart is really a problem, either. I think he's probably lost touch with his motivation for doing this, or he thought he'd be making more money sooner, and he's letting it distract him.
    There's no choice but to confront you, to engage you, to erase you. I've gone to great lengths to expand my threshold of pain. I will use my mistakes against you. There's no other choice.
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    Leben submitted Dewees who is very skilled on the ground.
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