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  1. hoodedmonk is offline
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    finger locks =waist of time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoodedmonk
    finger locks =waist of time!
    They can be used to discipline people who use homonyms incorrectly on Internet forums.
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    Now, now. Everyone knows that a waist is a terrible thing to mind.
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    Fingers may be easier to grab and strip off a weapon handle then to simply grab out of an empty hand strike.

    In many disarms the enemy's finger can end up in your grip as you lever the weapon out. Also, if they do not let go of the weapon then a wrist or elbow crank/lock follows, which is also a component of finger joint manipulation techniques. So for this reason it makes sense to see finger locks in conjunction with Arnis disarms.

    That being said it is only slightly easier to do a disarm then to do a finger lock. Not a very high probability technique either way. However, the movement pattern in many disarms is the same as for many strikes, so they can be a fun way to practice passing, lock and block, hand eye coordination, etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr._Tzun_Tzu
    Fingers may be easier to grab and strip off a weapon handle...

    ...but it's far more fun to just strip them off the hand. Makes a nice sound, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr._Tzun_Tzu
    Fingers may be easier to grab and strip off a weapon handle then to simply grab out of an empty hand strike.

    In many disarms the enemy's finger can end up in your grip as you lever the weapon out. Also, if they do not let go of the weapon then a wrist or elbow crank/lock follows, which is also a component of finger joint manipulation techniques. So for this reason it makes sense to see finger locks in conjunction with Arnis disarms.

    That being said it is only slightly easier to do a disarm then to do a finger lock. Not a very high probability technique either way. However, the movement pattern in many disarms is the same as for many strikes, so they can be a fun way to practice passing, lock and block, hand eye coordination, etc....

    I'd rather just shoot them
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFoxtrot51
    I'd rather just shoot them
    That's a good reason to try a finger lock!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaFoxtrot51
    I'd rather just shoot them
    There is a certain close range where you will not be able to draw and/or aim a gun at an attacker before they hack into you with a club or machete, especially with a rifle in house to house close quarters stuff or when doing crowd control. Attacks from the side or other angle as an example, or hands from the crowd reaching out and grabbing your rifle when you are not allowed to actually shot anyone.

    Knowing "lock and block", vine disarms, or other passing techniques can be very useful here. They can be done with your weapon as well. The enemy's fingers getting caught up in the pass while you control the attacking hand (and weapon) is just a bonus, not the intention.

    but maybe you just thought you were being clever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Meex
    That's a good reason to try a finger lock!
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    I would just throw a trigger lock at a shooters weapon,......

    "If anything is gained from this, it should be you both wanting to get better so you can make up for how crappy you are now." KidSpatula about the Sirc vs DTT Gong Sau Event
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    I don't find a finger lock to be a compliance technique per say, more of a break-it-and-move-on. Fingers are very easy to break, and, while it won't stop a fight, a broken finger is still not a nice thing in one. I agree that in striking they are not easy to get, but fights (especially drunk ones) often turn sloppy and grabby, and then they can be very useful. Can't see the sense in training them too much though; its pretty easy to break a finger.
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