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  1. 3moose1 is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vince Tortelli
    How so? If I remember correctly, the smart money at the time was that George Sotiropholus (sp??) was going to wreck Speers, and then move on to face Danzig in the finals in a battle of the ringers, excuse me, "most skilled fighters on the show". The fact that Matt Hughes had a great game plan, which Tommy executed perfectly to dispose of the Australian, does not equal Matt Serra "fucking up" the quarter finals.
    Tommy is a freakin' beast, but to be honest, i think luck won a lot of his fights.

    I was seriously hoping for Saunders to wreck Speers, but apparently he's three brain cells didn't register that his arm was fucking breaking, lol.

    Am i the only one who thinks that Tommy "the Farmboy" Speers is the worst nick name in mma today?
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    I trained under Tim for about a year at Gladiator's Academy and i have never seen him get taken down so easily. I've watched him and Doug Fournet (who also trains there) grapple and Doug had a hard time with him, though Tim is a lot taller than Doug. Maybe wrestlers are his kryptonite. And damn, I'm about to be as old as Riddle and am no where close to as good as he is. Though i do at least have my driver's license...
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    Ahhh, I see, Danzing years-old, seasoned abilities and Speer's natural Gigantopecus strenght were the masterpiece of Hughes' coaching. Yeah Vince, I got you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teh El Macho
    Ahhh, I see, Danzing years-old, seasoned abilities and Speer's natural Gigantopecus strenght were the masterpiece of Hughes' coaching. Yeah Vince, I got you.
    For his first pick, Hughes chose former King of the Cage Title Contender and PRIDE veteran Mac Danzig. Serra decided to go with Joe Scarola, a guy who, at this point, was most famous for kicking another competitor in the face during a NAGA match, then fleeing the building as the kickee's team mates chased after him. (Later, this event would be eclipsed by a mental meltdown in the TUF house that had Gabe Ruediger pumping his fists and yelling "Yes! I'm not the most pathetic guy to get booted out of the Ultimate Fighter House") At the very least Matt Hughes is better at picking talented guys than Serra.
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    No argument there. Hughes was clearly a better judge of fighter potential than Serra I think.
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    George greeknamewithtoomanyvolwes and Danzig were both big prospects. Serra picked his friend and the best man from his wedding.

    That doesn't show better scouting on Hughes's part.
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    Yah but remember when Hughes got in his head.. talking about how Serra better pick him up quick? That was pretty funny and showed some good strategy with the head games. I hope Hughes and Serra fight soon.
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    Serra was going to pick his best friend first no matter what.
    Hughes really had nothing to do with it.
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    I like Rampage and all, but the previews look like he is going to flip out on his team- that can't be good. It's also a little early to flip out- two matches- one of them very close- it doesn't seem like he's giving them much of a chance.

    Whether Hughes can pick them is somewhat negligible and Danzig said that "I've had bad training before", which must include Hughes and not just his teammates.

    Speaking of Danzig, does anyone remember the clip of him sparring where he just punches the guy at will, including a jab, uppercut, hook combo that connects on every punch. Whenever I do that combo on the pads I think of that clip.
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    But why would you pick him first? You know Hughes didnt want him. Why not take the 2nd best fighter as your first pick?
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