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    There are a number of options with ROTC/Reserves for the Army. I have no idea about the USMC though. I did 4 years as a Recruiter for the Army in San Francisco (woohoo, what fun). I was also an Arabic linguist and Human Intelligence Collector. I can answer some generic questions about stuff, but nothing specific about the USMC. PM me if you have any questions.

    No matter what, don't be afraid to ask questions and get up to walk away if you aren't getting what you want. Play hardball.

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    you have to understand, i want to become a therapist...or a martial arts instructor...probably both, to be honest, because you don't exactly bank much as a martial arts instructor, when you start off...

    i was thinking getting a masters in social work, to be able to open up my own clinic, HOWEVER, i could just get my masters in clinical psychology, and a minor in social work, and have impressive credentials and what not...

    however, that junk is expensive....and i have no cash :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1
    you have to understand, i want to become a therapist...or a martial arts instructor...probably both, to be honest, because you don't exactly bank much as a martial arts instructor, when you start off...

    i was thinking getting a masters in social work, to be able to open up my own clinic, HOWEVER, i could just get my masters in clinical psychology, and a minor in social work, and have impressive credentials and what not...

    however, that junk is expensive....and i have no cash :(
    I have my master's in counseling psychology. Seriously, if you're going to stop at the Master's level, go the social work route or the Marriage and Family Therapy route. The licensing is much easier, and the MFT license is nationally recognized. The licenses I need to get are state dependent. I recently moved, so now I have to go through the whole licensing thing again. Also, social work is an older and more respected (at the master's level) field. In the end, we all basically do the same thing and get pretty much the same training, but in some places, it will be easier to get a job with an MSW.

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    Dude there is so much BS in the Marines about our MCMAP program it's ridicilous. I wouldn't listen to what any recruiter had to say about anything except what they were going to be serving at boot.

    ATA Karate guys are a dime a dozen. They arent worth a crap. Same with the Shorin Ryu guys in Okinawa who train with Master Kise at Camp Butler.

    It's all what you make of it. If you take MCMAP seriously then its good stuff. If not then its crap like everything else. Oh the body conditioning rocks by the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bjjgame
    I have my master's in counseling psychology. Seriously, if you're going to stop at the Master's level, go the social work route or the Marriage and Family Therapy route. The licensing is much easier, and the MFT license is nationally recognized. The licenses I need to get are state dependent. I recently moved, so now I have to go through the whole licensing thing again. Also, social work is an older and more respected (at the master's level) field. In the end, we all basically do the same thing and get pretty much the same training, but in some places, it will be easier to get a job with an MSW.
    Yeah, MSWs can do alot of things...but, what is the difference, training wise, between counseling psych and an msw?

    I'm good at 3 things, fighting (passibly) music, and helping people, lol.

    plus ****, man, my friend's therapist makes a fucking truckload, haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1
    I'm good at 3 things, fighting (passibly) music, and helping people, lol.
    If you are really interested in counseling, you might consider looking into getting the Navy to pay for medical training in psychology. They're seriously in need of people, and being in the Medical Corps you could then go deploy with the Marines, without actually having to be one :)

    Seriously, I'm a Marine officer (and incidentally I was a MCMAP instructor once upon a time). Don't join the Marines unless you want to be a Marine. It's not a place to be if you don't want to be there. If all you want is college the Air Force or Navy would be a better place to do your time.

    That said, if you do want to be a Marine, do it. It's a great opportunity. But D Dempsey is right -- life in the Marine Corps is a *lot* better as an officer. Look into ROTC or a service academy if you've got the grades. It's worth the extra time. Honestly.

    ~yanta

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    Yanta brought up a good point. Being a Corpsman might be a good choice. We always took care of our doc. He never once had to buy his own beer. Plus, as a doc, you'll always have a little psychological leverage over the guys you'd take care of. All you have to do is threaten to lose a shot record...

    The docs we had were really gunji, and we trained them in our weapons systems too. If we had to go sleep in the mud, they were right there too. I have nothing but respect for those guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colby
    The docs we had were really gunji, and we trained them in our weapons systems too. If we had to go sleep in the mud, they were right there too. I have nothing but respect for those guys.
    Marines respect two kinds of Navy personnel, Seals and corpsmen.

    Quote Originally Posted by yanta
    It's not a place to be if you don't want to be there. If all you want is college the Air Force or Navy would be a better place to do your time.
    I spent six years enlisted in the Marine Corps, and I can tell you, this guy knows what he's talking about.

    The Navy and Air Force have better everything. Better barracks, better equipment, better food and most importantly, better educational opportunities. Do NOT join the U.S.M.C. unless you are 100% sure that's what you want to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wounded Ronin
    Well, when you think about it, it would probably a very good and awesome thing if everyone in the infantry had a masters in philosophy...
    agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by yanta
    That said, if you do want to be a Marine, do it. It's a great opportunity. But D Dempsey is right -- life in the Marine Corps is a *lot* better as an officer. Look into ROTC or a service academy if you've got the grades. It's worth the extra time. Honestly.

    ~yanta
    Yeah, my dad was a staff seargent in the Marines, and in force recon, and he told me that if i was thinking about joining the military, that air-force would be better...he told me some of the luxuries that the air-force guys get...but i mean


    Its an allure type thing, you know? You can join the air-force, and the army, or the navy, and its nothing really...special...but if your a Marine, well, your unique...

    I don't know, i still have alot of things to think about, and i really need money for college...

    I'm going to talk to an air-force recruiter today...but if i go air-force, i'd want to be an officer, and you can't be an officer w/out college...right?

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