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    Matched vs Unmatched Lead

    edit: er.. haha fucked up the thread title.

    I was wondering if anyone has any tips/experience transitioning between matched and unmatched leads. and also strategies for entries with unmatched leads against bigger/taller opponents.

    or is there a DVD from the Dog Brothers or someone else that deals with alot of entries and footwork.

    matched lead = both people are left lead or both are right lead.
    unmatched lead = one is left lead, one is right lead.


    also anyone have good coordination drills for ambidexterous footwork.

    cuz my footwork is kind of confused. I've been training kickboxing with orthodox (left lead) and its been throwing me off in stick if I go with left lead because I trained FMA mostly with right lead except my right arm is weaker but faster then my left.
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    I trained primarily with right lead in both TKD & JKD. Switch it up in your kickboxing so you're not dumping your empty hand into one hemisphere of your brain & your weapons into the other. They don't like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by variance
    edit: er.. haha fucked up the thread title.

    I was wondering if anyone has any tips/experience transitioning between matched and unmatched leads. and also strategies for entries with unmatched leads against bigger/taller opponents.

    or is there a DVD from the Dog Brothers or someone else that deals with alot of entries and footwork.

    matched lead = both people are left lead or both are right lead.
    unmatched lead = one is left lead, one is right lead.


    also anyone have good coordination drills for ambidexterous footwork.

    cuz my footwork is kind of confused. I've been training kickboxing with orthodox (left lead) and its been throwing me off in stick if I go with left lead because I trained FMA mostly with right lead except my right arm is weaker but faster then my left.
    The Kali Tudo dvd from the Dog Brothers is enitrely about this subject in the context of empty-hand fighting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by variance
    edit: er.. haha fucked up the thread title.

    I was wondering if anyone has any tips/experience transitioning between matched and unmatched leads. and also strategies for entries with unmatched leads against bigger/taller opponents.

    or is there a DVD from the Dog Brothers or someone else that deals with alot of entries and footwork.

    matched lead = both people are left lead or both are right lead.
    unmatched lead = one is left lead, one is right lead.


    also anyone have good coordination drills for ambidexterous footwork.

    cuz my footwork is kind of confused. I've been training kickboxing with orthodox (left lead) and its been throwing me off in stick if I go with left lead because I trained FMA mostly with right lead except my right arm is weaker but faster then my left.
    So a few different schools about this

    Larry's guys all learn to go neutral lead when they're on the outside of weapon range, and step in with the weapon-hand lead. He thinks, always have the weapon forward, hit the hand and then circle out.

    My pekiti training teaches that the Triangular footwork is inherently ambidexterous. You have to be able to comfortably move with either foot forward in order to present the angles we intend to use. Typically i have weapon lead forward at longer range, and a boxing lead as I angle further to the outide of the weapon, or if i'm drive-bying as we go. As long as i still keep the weapon between us, there's no reason why I can't put the left leg forward safely.

    Another reason you've got to be able to move with either leg forward is that cross-stepping is the most reliable leg shot defense.
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    Have people feed you "the metronome" doing hand to hand and stick rounds back to back, short sets, about the length of a boxing round.
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    The DBMA DVD Krabi Krabong video is good with this. So is Cycle Drills, Attacking Blocks...
    Huh, lots of good ones actually.


    Personally, I go back and forth while fighting and actually do better with left lead in the Salty stance. For some reason it throws people off their game when you go unmatched and the Salty makes you look defenseless. People don't know what to make of it. From there you work the trident depending on your opponents stance with your attacking block principles. As a matter of fact, in the last 3-day Gathering I got most of my best hits from using an unmatched lead. Unfortunatley though it was VERY hard to get people to fall for the attacking blocks when everybody present had the word "dog" somewhere in their name. :sad7: I guess they all have seen it before LMAO.

    edit: Also, IMHO it's easier to work your MT kicks and teeps in the unmatched lead. Of course, that's mostly KK and a variation on that theme.

    edit #2: FYI - EVERYBODY is bigger/taller then me that I fight. So, if I can do it... :XXjester:
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    With the weapon in the rear I definately have an easier time setting up power shots. Particularly when double sticking, I like to take the dominant hand rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by selfcritical
    With the weapon in the rear I definately have an easier time setting up power shots. Particularly when double sticking, I like to take the dominant hand rear.
    I agree as far as power on a number 1 or 8. I can play an outside game off lead and then cover a lot of distance to get in with a big shot.

    However, my heavyist shot is still #4 off the right lead.
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    Backhand horizontal?
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    Yup... and my strongest punch is my left hook. Go figure?
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