9/07/2008 9:49pm, #21
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- Vancouver, BC
Maybe I'm not interpreting your :p right, but I find it's wrestlers who don't make the mistake and it's very common among BJJers.
9/08/2008 6:12am, #22
That's my point. Staying "heavy" is a necessity in wrestling, and BJJ guys don't always take it on so well. If you aren't staying heavy, in my opinion, that's bad wrestling, but not necessarily bad BJJ.Originally Posted by Sarcastro
9/08/2008 6:33am, #23
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But shouldn't a well rounded bjj player know how to stay heavy?
He doesn't always have to do it, but I'm sure that its a skill that gets used enough to make learning how to do it important.
9/08/2008 7:43am, #24
I don't know...almost 7 years on and I still have alot of trouble staying heavy.There is no cheating, there is only jiu-jitsu.
9/08/2008 9:52am, #25
I know plenty of BJJ guys who can kick my ass without staying heavy. Though I know quite a few who can kick my ass while making me feel like a boat anchor is on me at all times.Originally Posted by Sarcastro
9/08/2008 9:58am, #26Originally Posted by twKoxinga
I know many guys who have a heavy game on top, until they move . . .Shut the hell up and train.
9/08/2008 10:13am, #27Originally Posted by jnp
This is definitely a problem with alot of people I roll with. I can't escape if they just lie there..but the very second they try to attack...BOOM, i'm out.There is no cheating, there is only jiu-jitsu.
9/08/2008 10:33am, #28Originally Posted by cyrijl
Too many times, top guy sees the sub at the end of the rainbow and ignores good positioning in his impatience to get to the finish. This is why it's so important to slow down and pay attention to ALL the details when you're in a top position. You can't do this if you're in a mad scramble.
I still do this occasionally myself, despite knowing better. There's a brown belt who's been kicking my ass since I was a white and he was a blue. I've finally become good enough to gain side or mount on him lately, but once I'm there, I'm usually so surprised that I don't pay enough attention to my position and he escapes shortly thereafter.Shut the hell up and train.
9/08/2008 11:38am, #29
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much love for the sticky-worthy post.
makes me proud to be from SBG.
9/08/2008 4:31pm, #30
A good drill to learn to stay heavy is to take a large fitness orb, the kinds people do situps and pilates with, deflate it a little, and roll around on it.
It sounds a bit silly, but it really gets the feeling across of moving from side control to chest on chest to sitting out all the while keeping the ball under you. I've even seen guys do this with soccer ball sized medicine balls, and even once with a tennis ball. It's a great way to practice staying on top and has helped me tremendously.Originally Posted by Sarcastro